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Old 06-04-2012, 05:34 AM   #1
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plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

Never played him or saw this guy... first hand:

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PL Omaha $6(BB) IPoker
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Hero ($600)

Dealt to Hero A 5 2 A

Hero raises to $18, raises to $54, Hero raises to $159, calls $105

FLOP ($318) T J Q

checks, Hero checks

TURN ($318) T J Q 2

bets $318, Hero ???

Flop is obv nasty....turn anything else then jam?
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:02 AM   #2
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

shiiiiiieeet

im jamming
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:13 AM   #3
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

Turn's the easiest jam in the world. Flop's good.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:48 AM   #4
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

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Turn's the easiest jam in the world. Flop's good.
In game i jammed to but i doubt we are much more then the 37% equity ever...so i donīt think its that easy what do you think is that bottom of his open jamming range on turn? Can we really give him stuff like any (weak) pair + GS with that sizing as default w/o knowing him?
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:50 AM   #5
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

I am pretty confident that this is just a fold. Equity against the strong part of his range is awful and he has a strong hand far more often than a weak semibluff.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:16 PM   #6
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

Because of the preflop action both of your ranges hit this board hard, your hand is on the weaker side of the ranges. I would fold because it's not easy to come up with 4 cards he can have that you are a favorite against (because of preflop action). He has also committed to putting in the other $123 so really he is worse-than-overbetting-pot.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:08 AM   #7
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

With this hand and without prior history I would also consider calling preflop. The stack sizes arent great.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:20 PM   #8
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

Depends how much you want to gamble and if you have a re-buy in your pocket? Prb up against KK or a set. Drawing thin.

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:57 PM   #9
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

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Turn's the easiest jam in the world. Flop's good.
I like jamming the turn but I think you might overestimate how easy it is to make that play when we consider our average equity when getting it in here. Only against weak players are you gonna see a significant profit in this spot.
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

damn sick spot.

i go all in. but dont mind folding.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:20 AM   #11
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

razor thin, u are ahead of some hands but not many
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:22 AM   #12
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

prolly a fold though considering he checks some whiffs and you are only 40% vs a reasonable range preflop
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:56 AM   #13
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

Yeah, this spot is kinda easy to solve and I also think a fold is correct.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:28 PM   #14
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Re: plo 600 HU - first hand and 4bet pot...

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In game i jammed to but i doubt we are much more then the 37% equity ever...so i donīt think its that easy what do you think is that bottom of his open jamming range on turn? Can we really give him stuff like any (weak) pair + GS with that sizing as default w/o knowing him?
Uh, what? We have 42% against naked two pair, and he'll jam a bunch of one pair + FD hands that we dominate. Wouldn't even be surprised to see a shove from stuff like naked T876 with no FDs. I can't imagine us being <37% against his range.

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Old 06-11-2012, 08:47 AM   #15
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Uh, what? We have 42% against naked two pair, and he'll jam a bunch of one pair + FD hands that we dominate. Wouldn't even be surprised to see a shove from stuff like naked T876 with no FDs. I can't imagine us being <37% against his range.
problem is, 2pair isn't only ''alone'' 2pair. this board hits so hard rundowns...
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