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[krmont22]

Best of luck to everyone this year!

[PLOwn]

Good Luck KrMont22.
I will see you this year on the way to supernova elite...
I am super pumped about getting started. I am starting playing again in like 2 weeks, and I am going to put in tons of volume. I have very high goals this year, and I am sure you do as well.
Good Luck in 2010

[cftw]

2010

for the win

[gordo16]

I am going to make a legitimate effort to not play above 10/20 for the entire year of 2010. Let there be grind!

[FOSGATEkid1]

Going for SNE.

GL Krmont getting 2MM vpps. GL to everyone else w/e your goals are.

[kutty]

thought:

shouldn't it look like most good players are running slightly over EV over a large hand sample b/c of all the times they are pushing their preflop edges/flop edges and when they get sucked out on there's still some small bets left which HEM calculates as getting all the money in bad?

[krmont22]

Originally Posted by kutty

thought:

shouldn't it look like most good players are running slightly over EV over a large hand sample b/c of all the times they are pushing their preflop edges/flop edges and when they get sucked out on there's still some small bets left which HEM calculates as getting all the money in bad?

I'm not really sure what you mean, but if you define good as getting it in with avg equity over 50pct and bad as below that, the good player is very insignficantly more likely to run below ev and the bad player above ev.

[kutty]

well i guess it gets mushy when u talk about good players getting it in bad in spots with fold equity, but my theory is that bad players will be chasing more draws incorrectly and so when they hit and the rest of (an insignificant amount) the money goes in it shows the AIEV as -100% and when it doesn't hit they just fold. wait what? man this weed is good. can someone finish this for me.

[PLOwn]

I do believe good players will run above EV in HEM. First of all, If we are at 5/10 and I bet 1000 on the flop and you have 1001$ and just call with a draw. Then on turn, when you hit and I bet your last $1 and now you are ahead, it shows up as you putting in a lot of money bad, when in fact you put in all your money but $1 very good.
Also, when get it in multiway, and there are large side pots, it calculates all your equities equally and not based on equities for the main pots, and side pots separately.
Example: you have 200bb KKxx, shortstacker has AAxx, and 200bb stack with 89TJs.s., all three of you get it in preflop. It gives you really bad equity, which in fact you have really good equity in the side pot, but it doesnt calculate it that way.
I believe all this is true, which in fact means you should run above HEM EV.

[krmont22]

are you people serious? do you think you never do the same thing? there are plenty of times where you get there and it shows you as 100pct ev. and im pretty confident it calculates sidepots correctly; its the SS that gets screwed when 2 people call him then there is betting postflop and he doesnt get his allin pre equity calculated he gets the equity on the street when the 3rd guy folds

[number007]

can i pretty please start running normal at 3-6 +

ty...

[h_ven]

Originally Posted by PLOwn

I do believe good players will run above EV in HEM. First of all, If we are at 5/10 and I bet 1000 on the flop and you have 1001$ and just call with a draw. Then on turn, when you hit and I bet your last $1 and now you are ahead, it shows up as you putting in a lot of money bad, when in fact you put in all your money but $1 very good.
Also, when get it in multiway, and there are large side pots, it calculates all your equities equally and not based on equities for the main pots, and side pots separately.
Example: you have 200bb KKxx, shortstacker has AAxx, and 200bb stack with 89TJs.s., all three of you get it in preflop. It gives you really bad equity, which in fact you have really good equity in the side pot, but it doesnt calculate it that way.
I believe all this is true, which in fact means you should run above HEM EV.

It's not going to show villain getting his money in bad because its "All-In EV". In the scenario you're talking about, you're going AI for $1 only, so the green line and dark green line are going to be almost identical. They would obviously be identical if hero was drawing dead and didn't have a higher FD or full house possibility.
It would show villain putting in a lot of money bad if you bet $1001.

[Born2DogBaby]

Originally Posted by gordo16

I am going to make a legitimate effort to not play above 10/20 for the entire year of 2010. Let there be grind!

Let there be sidebets!

[kutty]

Is there a thread that shows what the optimal SNE vpp/fpp buying rewards/milestone strategy is? Should I be buying all these little VPP notifications that are popping up?

Thanks!

[krmont22]

Originally Posted by kutty

Is there a thread that shows what the optimal SNE vpp/fpp buying rewards/milestone strategy is? Should I be buying all these little VPP notifications that are popping up?

Thanks!

Turning 1.6 cents into 10-100 dollars is a very good decision.