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10-07-2014 , 10:11 PM
I meant keep on asking. don't let it go. harass him in some way.
Show up at places he hangs out and confidently tell your story to his friends/family.
Raise awareness to friends that might stake him so he never get staked again.
Of course I'm not talking about hurting him physically...
Another bad outcome from this is that because you got fooled you will probably be reluctant to help out/stake another friend that might deserve it and wouldn't cheat you...
The only way to make it right is to get aggro about it
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10-07-2014 , 10:19 PM
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I meant keep on asking. don't let it go. harass him in some way.
Show up at places he hangs out and confidently tell your story to his friends/family.
Raise awareness to friends that might stake him so he never get staked again.
Of course I'm not talking about hurting him physically...
Another bad outcome from this is that because you got fooled you will probably be reluctant to help out/stake another friend that might deserve it and wouldn't cheat you...
The only way to make it right is to get aggro about it
I may raise awareness but i already shut down communication with him.

I dont think people that cheats u with large sum of money r going to give it back only cause u get aggro with them, probably they r mentally ill and they dont realize what they r doing OR they make a living out of this OR they just live a world full of lies and believe their own ****.

Im always available for helping friends , i just have to focus on helping them in all possible ways before loaning them money. And once i loan them be ready to be raped.
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10-07-2014 , 11:00 PM
helping other ppl can be a very nice thing...it makes you feel comfortable...
not being a stingy,hardhearted bastard means life quality....
unfortunately life quality is rarely for free...
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10-07-2014 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by j.a.o.p.
helping other ppl can be a very nice thing...it makes you feel comfortable...
not being a stingy,hardhearted bastard means life quality....
unfortunately life quality is rarely for free...
Ur life logic shows that u have been raped so many times that its normal. I prefer to believe its not.
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10-07-2014 , 11:22 PM
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Ur life logic shows that u have been raped so many times that its normal. I prefer to believe its not.
forget all that rape bs....
many times i lend money to 2. class friends where i knew i won't get it back....
donation...good deed...whatever...tho small amounts

bigger amounts...only to certified and approved first class friends...
fortunately there aren't many of them....if one of those wouldn't pay me back...this would be a personal thing...this wouldn't be about money
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10-07-2014 , 11:24 PM
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forget all that rape bs....
many times i lend money to 2. class friends where i knew i won't get it back....
donation...good deed...whatever...tho small amounts

bigger amounts...only to certified and approved first class friends...
fortunately there aren't many of them....if one of those wouldn't pay me back...this would be a personal thing...this wouldn't be about money
Interesting . Sounds like a plan.

Edit: just wanna emphasize : really interesting approach.
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10-07-2014 , 11:27 PM
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What would u guys do if a friend of yours cheat you with a big amountnof money?
I dont have any hope in getting my money back ... Short story he has been owing money since beggining of the year where I had some action and he won, then some money he asked me for a quick loan , then money he asked me to back him , and half profit he made....
All i get is same answer everytime: "sorry", "tomorrow we make payment plan" , "srsly tomorrow ..." , bla bla bla ...
Im so mad / sad right now i sincerely dont know what the **** to do , i feel like an stupid idiot for letting friends rape me over and over again.

Any thought would be appreciated, even trolls , just need to hear people opinion /stories.(this is somewhat different to the usualmstory because he is what i consider a close friend and the amount was BIG - for me)
He is not truly your good friend if he did this to you. Does he have a bad gambling or drug problem?

I would cut him out of your life basically, periodically checking in to see if he has any intention of paying you. And if it's clear he's just going to rob you w/ no real remorse or effort to pay you anything back, inform all your mutual friends and acquaintances that he is a thief and scumbag, and never talk to him again.

And in future I would also advise using better judgement in the people you become close friends w/, and also avoid mixing business/$ and friendship at all costs.
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10-07-2014 , 11:32 PM
Obv he aint a friend if he cheated me . I thought he was , thats why he could cheat me.

I prefer assuming im drawing dead with the money, thats the best way to move on.
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10-07-2014 , 11:32 PM
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Interesting . Sounds like a plan.

Edit: just wanna emphasize : really interesting approach.
I'm honestly not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic in this response....

Edit: tho I just read your "Ur life logic shows that u have been raped so many times that its normal. I prefer to believe its not." reply to him, so I guess you're being sarcastic?

Also, I would also presume you're never getting any $ back, but unless he made it very clear he's never going to pay you anything, can't hurt to check in w/ him from time to time to see if he's had a change of heart / come into some $ / whatever
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10-07-2014 , 11:37 PM
Stop leveling urself, im very well chat balanced for u to take a wild read on me .
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10-07-2014 , 11:41 PM
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Yeah, the last time I saw this, I fell off my dinosaur and broke my wooden underwear

Thanks for posting this obviously fake article , that was posted in 873BC

gtfo
I realized I'd seen it before just as I was about to post it, but is it fake as well?

Also, yeah I can't apologize enough for this repost, I know how annoying it is when people repost stupid crap. This one guy on 2p2 has posted this same exact dumb gif literally prob 100+ times and I didn't think it was funny the 1st time

Spoiler:
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10-07-2014 , 11:53 PM
And to prove I'm not out of touch and just posting fake old links, here's a brand new, insane (and true) news article
Woman Uses Potato As Birth Control

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In a bizarre incident that appears to show the importance of making correct birth control information available to young people, a 22-year-old woman in Colombia said she used a potato as contraceptive device, because her mother advised her to.

When she later visited doctors after complaining of abdominal pains, what they found proved exactly how misguided that maternal advice had been.

“My mom told me that if I didn’t want to get pregnant, I should put a potato up there, and I believed her,” the woman told a Colombian news site.”

Fair enough. But after she left the potato in place for a couple of weeks, she started getting crippling pains in her lower abdomen. So she naturally went to have the issue checked out. She went to a hospital where nurse Carolina Rojas examined her.

“But it didn’t take long for Rojas to diagnose the problem. Because when she asked the patient to disrobe for the examination, she saw roots growing out of the woman’s vagina.”

Rojas at first thought that someone was playing a prank on her — but the case was 100 percent real, and actually, not too surprising given that the woman and her mother were so poorly informed about contraception that they believed a potato inserted into her vagina was an appropriate method of birth control.

In fact, the potato was only doing what potatoes do. It had started to germinate, sprouting roots that extended into the woman’s vaginal wall.
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10-08-2014 , 12:12 AM
New meaning for "pulling a root"
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10-08-2014 , 03:13 AM
Sell his debt for 1/2 to the worst Chilean mother****er
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10-08-2014 , 03:49 AM
Your friendship with this person is already on the verge of ruin. So give it one more shot and tell him that if he doesn't start paying back immediately, you won't hesitate to inform all your mutual friends.

If this doesn't move him, move on if the money is insignificant to you b/c the mental stress just isn't worth it. If it's a large amount of money to you, stop being a pussy and threaten the guy in some way.

He's not worthy of being your friend if he can cheat you over money so better to find out now rather then invest more years being his friend.

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10-08-2014 , 04:24 AM
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Your friendship with this person is already on the verge of ruin. So give it one more shot and tell him that if he doesn't start paying back immediately, you won't hesitate to inform all your mutual friends.

If this doesn't move him, move on if the money is insignificant to you b/c the mental stress just isn't worth it. If it's a large amount of money to you, stop being a pussy and threaten the guy in some way.

He's not worthy of being your friend if he can cheat you over money so better to find out now rather then invest more years being his friend.

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This.

When you first approach - do it somewhere neutral... don't just jump straight into it. Do a social activity together like you guys have done in the past as friends.

Maybe have a beer or too, diner, etc have some laughs first, show genuine concern for his well-being - he will reciprocate - and then make a gut call on how to advance... don't be afraid to eventually go over to his parents house with evidence of how you've given him money and see if they will pay up once it seems like you have to write off the money.

Also, here's 5 rules for poker an old timer gave me in my first poker game. Something to consider for the future, re 1 & 2, so you dont find yourself in a similar spot again.

1. Be careful who you befriend
2. Never lend
3. Never borrow
4. Never sweat it
5. Be classy
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10-08-2014 , 04:24 AM
Alexo,
As has been said, your only recourse is to do what all other people in this community do when scammed, namely ruin his reputation!

Hopefully lesson learned... time to move on.
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10-08-2014 , 05:11 AM
Alexo, Does he still have the money or did he degen it away or something. That fact might make a huge difference in your game plan.
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10-08-2014 , 05:19 AM
Also, isn't it highly likely that he'll read this thread at some point as well?

And be a level of ahead of any cunning plan that is devised... presuming his a grinder too
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10-08-2014 , 05:24 AM
Hey Alexo, I've had this problem loads of times and with a whole variety of people. Close friends, not-so close friends and even family.

Personally, I came to the opinion that people who see someone else with spare cash and living well/earning a decent living, will often assume that person just doesn't need the money. I don't know if they initially intend to take advantage of it this opinion, but it often happens that way.

I've had situations where I've let people (very close to me) borrow a decent chunk of money because they say 'times are hard',. They sort themselves out and then I see them flying off on holiday, buying new clothes, going to gigs/festivals and just generally doing really irresponsible **** like that. It tilts me so ****ing hard. But I genuinely don't think they realise just how big of a deal it is. Even when you remind them of the debt...

The worst thing about it, is some of these people I truly love to bits and I know would do anything (intangible) for me. But for some reason, they are financial ******s and seem to think it's ok to spend money they don't have. I would constantly chase the money off these people and would get a little bit from them here and there, but it never got fully paid off...

After years of being owed a chunk of money from a selection of people, I took the decision to just simply stop chasing it. It was causing me so much stress that, to be honest, I just didn't need. I now don't lend money to anybody, not even a small amount. Instead, I will sometimes 'gift' people who are very close to me a little bit of money if I think they REALLY need it. Then the choice is theirs. If they want to pay it back then they can, if not then no worries, it's a gift.

I guess the question is, how much do you need the money? If you really need it and think you genuinely have a shot of getting it back (I get the impression you probably don't), keep going for it. Tell your mutual friends, tell his family, and try every avenue to get it back. But, if the money isn't super important to you, my advice is to cut the person out of your life completely, write off the cash, be happy and move on.

I hope you find the right path.

Anthony

Last edited by Anthony James; 10-08-2014 at 05:43 AM. Reason: Meh
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10-08-2014 , 05:30 AM
helping someone to learn how to managed their debts >>>>>>> gifting someone money they cant afford to spend = their hand to mouth spending habbits will not improve

Most of the time these people dont care about their finances, and pay redic late charges, interest rates etc when better deals are available to them just bcos they are too lazy to put the effort in to fix their debt problems.
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10-08-2014 , 05:42 AM
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helping someone to learn how to managed their debts >>>>>>> gifting someone money they cant afford to spend = their hand to mouth spending habbits will not improve

Most of the time these people dont care about their finances, and pay redic late charges, interest rates etc when better deals are available to them just bcos they are too lazy to put the effort in to fix their debt problems.
I said I gift them money if I think they need it. Sorry, I should have added 'really' in. It's never significant money and it's only to people VERY close to me. While I agree it's better to help them learn how to manage their money, how realistic is it that this will actually ever happen?
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10-08-2014 , 06:12 AM
def agree that lots of people are just complete financial degens and lending them money is a huge risk even if you know they don't have intentions to scam you.

on the other site it's a really good feeling that kinda strenghtens your believe in friendship and trust if somebody pays back his debt when you don't expect it anymore. I staked a good friend of mine over 2years ago for 50% of his winnings, he went on a downswing, I reinvested and he could only return a small part due to life expenses and run bad. A few month ago after not really having contact we chatted some and he was still struggeling, I decided to lend him another small sum so he doenst have to drop from playing low stakes. Last week he told me he finally hit an upswing and returned the last sum and parts of the original debt, transfering weekly small amounts.
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10-08-2014 , 06:26 AM
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def agree that lots of people are just complete financial degens and lending them money is a huge risk even if you know they don't have intentions to scam you.

on the other site it's a really good feeling that kinda strenghtens your believe in friendship and trust if somebody pays back his debt when you don't expect it anymore. I staked a good friend of mine over 2years ago for 50% of his winnings, he went on a downswing, I reinvested and he could only return a small part due to life expenses and run bad. A few month ago after not really having contact we chatted some and he was still struggeling, I decided to lend him another small sum so he doenst have to drop from playing low stakes. Last week he told me he finally hit an upswing and returned the last sum and parts of the original debt, transfering weekly small amounts.
I'm glad that, against all odds, it worked out for you. Having said that, it's a sad state of affairs when you consider being paid back what is rightfully yours a friendship strengthener. Result orientation aside, the fact that you see it this way is actually quite the opposite of a good feeling.
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10-08-2014 , 06:41 AM
knock his block off
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