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Observer TRTD: PLO 100/200 riverspot (Looking for possible BTN-range) Observer TRTD: PLO 100/200 riverspot (Looking for possible BTN-range)

09-21-2014 , 10:10 PM
PLO 100/200 on PS, running around Ilari, I guess.


Very interesting hand, where supernova9 was on the button, and tank-folded the river, after calling Towliestar's usual pot-open (from Hi-Jack here, playing way deeper than his usual 40bb he bought in for), as well as the first two of three of his usual 70-75% pot-size barrels.

I don't want to believe that supernova9 called flop, and the paired rainbow-turn, with AKxx, just to fold on this rivercard, and what else would he play like that?
Since even most of the odd possible straight-draws have arrived OTR, and cause it was also a lower card than the paired rainbow 7 on the turn, I think supernova9 definintely cannot have had a 7 here (not...like anyway), and also definitely no str8, ofc, which basically just leaves A64O, A42O, and ofc hands like Ace with three overs, but no K in it. (O=overcrad to 7). Okay, and 2266, too.

Towlie seems to be quite polarized on this river, to either trips or better or a bluff with Ace-rags up to AQxx, like counterfeited A2xx 2pair or so, for example. He is much less likely to have rivered a str8 here, imo, while he must at least think about supernova9 having a few in his range. Now that he bets again OTR, for the third time, he clearly tries to rep trip 7's or better again, while he got called OTT already, so seems like he either has it, or is praying that supernova9 gives him enough credit to not put him on a bluff, when firing for the third time on this pretty dry board/river.




Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Odd_Oddsen (SB): $60640.90
Johan5390 (BB): $39836.52
Ike Haxton (UTG): $29837.84
toweliestar (MP): $26643.42
Ilari FIN (CO): $30070.79
supernova9 (BTN): $23673.25

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
1 fold, toweliestar raises to $700, 1 fold, supernova9 calls $700, 2 folds

Flop: ($1700.00) 3 A 7 (2 players)
toweliestar bets $1271.25, supernova9 calls $1271.25

Turn: ($4242.50) 7 (2 players)
toweliestar bets $3078.12, supernova9 calls $3078.12

River: ($10398.74) 4 (2 players)
toweliestar bets $7795.30, supernova9 folds

Final Pot: $10398.74
toweliestar wins $10393.74
(Rake: $5.00)
Observer TRTD: PLO 100/200 riverspot (Looking for possible BTN-range) Quote
09-21-2014 , 10:27 PM
33xx.

ldo

Quote:
Originally Posted by TooRareToDie
PLO 100/200 on PS, running around Ilari, I guess.


Very interesting hand, where supernova9 was on the button, and tank-folded the river, after calling Towliestar's usual pot-open (from Hi-Jack here, playing way deeper than his usual 40bb he bought in for), as well as the first two of three of his usual 70-75% pot-size barrels.

I don't want to believe that supernova9 called flop, and the paired rainbow-turn, with AKxx, just to fold on this rivercard, and what else would he play like that?
Since even most of the odd possible straight-draws have arrived OTR, and cause it was also a lower card than the paired rainbow 7 on the turn, I think supernova9 definintely cannot have had a 7 here (not...like anyway), and also definitely no str8, ofc, which basically just leaves A64O, A42O, and ofc hands like Ace with three overs, but no K in it. (O=overcrad to 7). Okay, and 2266, too.

Towlie seems to be quite polarized on this river, to either trips or better or a bluff with Ace-rags up to AQxx, like counterfeited A2xx 2pair or so, for example. He is much less likely to have rivered a str8 here, imo, while he must at least think about supernova9 having a few in his range. Now that he bets again OTR, for the third time, he clearly tries to rep trip 7's or better again, while he got called OTT already, so seems like he either has it, or is praying that supernova9 gives him enough credit to not put him on a bluff, when firing for the third time on this pretty dry board/river.




Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Odd_Oddsen (SB): $60640.90
Johan5390 (BB): $39836.52
Ike Haxton (UTG): $29837.84
toweliestar (MP): $26643.42
Ilari FIN (CO): $30070.79
supernova9 (BTN): $23673.25

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
1 fold, toweliestar raises to $700, 1 fold, supernova9 calls $700, 2 folds

Flop: ($1700.00) 3 A 7 (2 players)
toweliestar bets $1271.25, supernova9 calls $1271.25

Turn: ($4242.50) 7 (2 players)
toweliestar bets $3078.12, supernova9 calls $3078.12

River: ($10398.74) 4 (2 players)
toweliestar bets $7795.30, supernova9 folds

Final Pot: $10398.74
toweliestar wins $10393.74
(Rake: $5.00)
Observer TRTD: PLO 100/200 riverspot (Looking for possible BTN-range) Quote
09-21-2014 , 10:36 PM
No
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09-21-2014 , 11:08 PM
Not an interesting hand at all imo, esp considering we don't know what either had + you have no real idea about the dynamics between the players. If same hand was played between 2 regs at 2/5zoom no one would think twice, think you're getting your judgement clouded by the nosebleed stakes. You realize the river bet might be 8k, but it's only 40bb

If we want to discuss hands like this, there's a thread for that

I think a good rule for you + any other posters is, if you want make a new op in this forum designed for hs plo cash game discussion, you should actually play hs plo cash games
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09-21-2014 , 11:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TooRareToDie
No
When I originally saw the post didn't look at sn figured it was alexo responding to your op. Looks like alexo has started a trend w/ the 1 word "No" response reply, not sure I'm a big fan of that, but I guess at least know when people troll that way it saves everyone time by only having to read a 2character msg
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09-21-2014 , 11:29 PM
The game runs around Haxton, not Ilari.
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09-21-2014 , 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loctus
The game runs around Haxton, not Ilari.
No
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09-21-2014 , 11:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loctus
The game runs around Haxton, not Ilari.

yep everybody wanted haxton's 6k
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09-21-2014 , 11:41 PM
gii
Observer TRTD: PLO 100/200 riverspot (Looking for possible BTN-range) Quote
09-21-2014 , 11:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
gii
<3
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09-22-2014 , 12:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crashwhips
When I originally saw the post didn't look at sn figured it was alexo responding to your op. Looks like alexo has started a trend w/ the 1 word "No" response reply, not sure I'm a big fan of that, but I guess at least know when people troll that way it saves everyone time by only having to read a 2character msg
So you really wanna say that the first "33, ldo" reply had some merits, and did not deserve a simple "No"??

I actually have played +10k hands 2/4-5/10, and a few hundred hands at 10/20 on FullTilt. Where to draw to line who can post?
Okay, seriously, will not post any further observed hands here, but be aware that I am not looking at amount of $ instead of bb involved here... im not dumb. That was just the reason I opened the table.

Last edited by TooRareToDie; 09-22-2014 at 12:14 AM. Reason: cheers
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09-22-2014 , 12:15 AM
^ban

/thread
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09-23-2014 , 09:37 AM
I don't understand why you would pick such a boring hand to analyze, especially since you know nothing about their ranges/dynamic or actual hands. It seems like a waste of time.
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09-23-2014 , 11:11 AM
Turn is a blocker call. It can be done with any ace or 7. If you call turn, they know you have equity and are less likely to barrel river because you could have enough to look them up. It happens 1 in every 3 hands from the blinds.
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09-24-2014 , 03:07 AM
I think you nailed it in the OP - he had 2266.
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09-24-2014 , 03:40 AM
it must be A456
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09-25-2014 , 11:11 AM
I imagine he's calling the turn with close to 100% of his flop-calling range on this runout
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09-25-2014 , 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by praios
it must be A456
654x seems like what it would be weighted towards the most. idk why u included an ace
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