Very interesting thread IMO. That said, I think you guys need to validate the legitimacy of your data. In my mind Stars will react to the current approach in a few ways:-
- They will say that datamined Hand Histories are not 100% accurate, ergo analysis has no wheels
- To protect player(s) integrity they probably won't discuss specific individuals data
- They will know your meeting strategy. (Discussments in public forum = unbagged cat)
To counter the above I would suggest approaching as many of the 300K+ players as you can and say, look, help us confirm how accurate this data is (compare volume, winnings, rake, rakeback, etc... its in
their interest to help, etc). Try to do the same for the players in 100K-300K bracket as well, obv bigger sample. Then footnote ~accuracy% to your data.
Also, see if some of the players will agree to send email waivers to state that in the meeting you can discuss a specific player under their actual stars sn. So they are not referred to as X out Y players... which is what I presume that Stars have done in the past. This way you'll remove the power of ambiguity PS can sit on. Stars have all the cards, they have the data, they can bend it however they want to steer the meeting in their chosen direction, i.e. their profit model... that's all they care about - work around that with them to get what we need by finding glaring gaps that they can't see!!
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Originally Posted by eldodo42
I see there is interest in the thread for some number-crunching. I'll be happy to do it and to report the results here, given that I have the data. OP: would it be possible to get the data from you? I don't need the details of the hands, just the names of the players in each hand and how much each player won or lost. Of course, I'll be good with just having the HHs themselves: I promise I won't use them for anything other than data crunching for this project, and will not pass them to anyone without your permission. If I get this data from OP or someone else, I'll PM joeri and Neptune04 and we'll discuss methodology.
I would also suggest trying to bring someone like Kraada on board to get the most out of the data from PT. IMO you guys should be putting a strong admin team of 4-6 together to support GUI, or whoever goes and arm them with a chitload of conclusions and visual imagery based on your methodology... to force the objective across.
Last edited by TopPair2Pair; 03-31-2013 at 10:28 PM.
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