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Loose preflop raiseleads to tough spot OOP Loose preflop raiseleads to tough spot OOP

08-14-2016 , 02:34 PM
Game is 2/5 PLO at Aria 400 min 3k max with $10 rock that the winner of each hand needs to place in the middle. Action begins to the left of the rock. Hero has tight image and is known NLHE reg, rock begins in MP.

Hero holds $1500 and all villains in hand cover.

HJ/CO/BTN all limp in, all three are 30-40% VPIP and loose semi-regs that I think are a little bad and enter the flop with easily dominated hands, both blinds fold and hero has AJT8 UTG. I make a loose pot raise to $70 (questionable? Is a limp preferred?) in order to try and dominate flops and cut one or two of them out. Rock calls, all three limpers call. $380 pot on the flop.

Flop peels T73:
Hero checks
Rock checks
HJ checks
CO checks
BTN bets pot $380
Hero?

BTN is IMO the biggest fish in the game, extremely loose old man European tourist. Very, very loose pre, checks down middle pair and bottom two type hands, pots with nuts and air but won't be psycho enough to pot here against four players with less than a monster wrap. Would only make a big bluff HU or maybe against two opponents.

Calling is clearly out of the question, but we have nut BDFD and nut gutshot. We should be doing fine against wraps and top two, but with three players behind I'm not sure if a shove could be profitable. Thoughts?
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08-14-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GameTheoryOptimal
hero has AJT8 UTG. I make a loose pot raise to $70 (questionable? Is a limp preferred?)
This is going to get you a lot of troll responses asking in a HSPLO forum.
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08-14-2016 , 05:38 PM
I'm folding here. Clear fold actually.

With your read on him holding a wrap you have no fold equity, a 9 may be only a chop and your 2p outs may well be dirty except for the A.

And then there are the times he holds 77xx. Or any of the other 3.


4 way its still a fold.

3 way hmmmm
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08-14-2016 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gakn29
This is going to get you a lot of troll responses asking in a HSPLO forum.
This would be a standard open raise UTG but the rock creates a unique situation that is barely talked about on these forums. I think it's worthwhile to question.
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08-15-2016 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GameTheoryOptimal
hero has AJT8 UTG. I make a loose pot raise to $70


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Originally Posted by GameTheoryOptimal
pots with nuts and air but won't be psycho enough to pot here against four players with less than a monster wrap
So he has a monster wrap, top2 or a set. I think you're basically flipping against that range. With 3 player behind you I think this is a easy fold.

If one of them has a set you are in terrible shape. And Im assuming those players you call "loose semi-regs that I think are a little bad" are not folding any set in this spot.
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08-16-2016 , 03:00 AM
This is not a loose pfr. I would just c/f flop. If I'm last to act otf after Btn pots I'll flat
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08-16-2016 , 05:26 AM
Easy fold, pre is fine
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08-17-2016 , 09:22 AM
yeah, sometimes I canīt tame my inner maniac as well and potraise those damn top 5% hands too
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08-17-2016 , 01:45 PM
So yeah I tank folded the flop figuring even if I had two BDFD it wouldn't be enough and it folded around to bettor.
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08-17-2016 , 04:04 PM
Tried to edit but that's actually a lie. Goofy bad MP limp caller called with two to act behind with J8AQ, turned an 9 and check jammed getting called by God knows what. Results oriented but pretty sick
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08-18-2016 , 05:59 PM
folds, not even close
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09-05-2016 , 11:35 AM
Pre I like a raise if we think we dont going to be Limped ReRaised by the field.

Flop I dont see no discussion, anything but a fold is just pure suicide oop.
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