5/5 game currently we are playing 8 handed and more often than not with a straddle tho not in this hand.

UTG1 definately knows whats going on and seems fairly competent
slightly on the loose side pre tho.

We have played some sessions but for the most part he has only seen me show down big hands.

MP is loose and plays probably 60-70 percent aggressive in position and will get it in pretty light on any street.

UTG+1 opens to 25 I'm UTG+2 and make it 80 with

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MP calls rest folds and UTG1 calls, flop:

K 6 8

check, I bet 200, MP shoves for 475, now UTG+1 Calls

We play 1100 effective for the sidepot. What do you do and what should my general thoughts be in this spot.

i shove without thinking twice.

his flat indicates a draw most of the time here and u need to get value / protect your hand

it depends on your read of UTG+1's holdings. Id probably shove though since he flat indicates a drawy hand.

Shove and dodge diamonds.

So I'm just beeing a big nit for thinking that UTG+1 range has to be very strong for him to coldcall behin here knowing that I can shove over him.?

No that is a reasonable thought. I think live you are getting it in pretty bad here when you shove, and I dont think he is flatting 475 and folding ever. I think you are up against a hand like AKJ10 with big diamonds a lot. Not sure yet what I do here.

With ur read that MP gets it in light though I am leaning towards shove then run it twice with UTG1 if the money bothers u. ChuckBass is prob right that we are up against a draw with UTG1, but that doesnt mean that we are valuetowning a lot of his range with a shove.

The more I've thought about the spot the more I lean towards shoving. There ain't gonna be a lot of cards that'll be easy to play on turn and more often that not I'll let him improve to better two pair.

The fact that my hands is always live one way or the other is good for shoving aswell.

And the few times he might make a wierd flold is just bling bling bling for hero

Shove and hope UTG+1 makes an incorrect fold.