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08-19-2015 , 11:52 AM
Hi all-

First post here, I'm a proficient live 2-5 NL player, and played some PLO last night and had a question.

Been at table about 45 minutes, never played with anyone at the table, sat down with about 1200. Playing with a "rock" which is $10 in chips wrapped in a rubber band the winner of the hand must put out as a straddle.

First hand - I want to discuss the second one but both were with same player. He has about 6k, apparently there was a five way all in pre flop, it was ran once and he scooped the whole thing. So I have AcJc9h7h, two limps, I call in the cutoff, he is button, pots to 70, both limpers call, I call, flop Qc 6d 3c. Checks to him, he bets 150, fold fold I call. Turn 10s. Check check. River 10h. I bet 325, he thinks about 20 seconds then calls. I tell him I missed my flush draw, he replies 'that's what I thought,' and tables AhQh6h6d. (Is this a standard call? I thought it was pretty light)

Second smallish hand is 4 way limped, I have AcQcxx, flop KcQh9c, three checks to him in position and he bets 25, one call, I call, brick turn, checks around, river Jc, I bet 80 he reluctantly calls.

Little bit later I pick up AdAcJh6h. I have about 1150 now. Hijack, the rock is directly on my right, so I am first to act. I've been extremely quiet pre-flop the hour I've been here and have yet to raise, so I decide to limp and play a limped pot in solid position or 3 bet given the opportunity. Same guy as before is directly on my left and makes it 45. This is the third time he has raised pre in the hour I've been here. First is above, second he folded on the flop. Button is asian lady short stacked with $220. She calls. Folds around to me, I make it $160. I believe pot at this point would have been about $200. Should I have made it the max?

Both call, flop Ks9c5s. At this point I believe this guy seems to be a bit of a calling station so I think I'll get at least one if not two streets of value depending on board run-out. At the same time its PLO and I'm not trying to get in another $900 with naked aces, especially given the short stack has $60 remaining so it will be a side pot. What should be my line here? Thanks!
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08-20-2015 , 01:23 AM
didnt read the second hand... but hand 1...Do you really expect him to fold an underful given the flop and turn action? Your hand never looks like a set so what is he supposed to put you on QTxx?
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08-20-2015 , 03:35 AM
Why the hell would he fold hand one?
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08-20-2015 , 10:33 AM
Yeah you're right, hand 1 is a pretty horrible bluff looking back at it
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08-20-2015 , 10:40 AM
The good: Your hand is reasonably strong and there's a good chance it's best right now.

The bad: You're OOP and your hand is unlikely to improve.

So what this means is you would like to end the betting. I would count on the button to bet her last 60, so I don't think you need to worry about missing your turn. I don't think betting 60 does any good; I would check and see what CO does. I would be willing to flat this street and see if a spade comes off.
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08-20-2015 , 01:37 PM
That first hand river bet is just ugly. I'm surprised he hesitated at all given the line you took. Betting the turn with the combo draw would have been reasonable, but in this particular hand it wouldn't have ended well for you.

Second hand is tough. The real problem is that you've been at the table an hour and haven't put in a preflop raise. Given that info I think the limp/raise is super transparent AAxx. So going to the flop you're oop with a hand that doesn't flop well and opponents that pretty much know your hand. If the guy to your left is any good he's going to make it super hard for you if he hits anything at all on the flop. This is just a bad situation.

Raise wider preflop so you can raise your AA hands without it being suspicious. Otherwise just call with AAxx here and try to hit a set or take it cheaply to showdown.
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08-20-2015 , 01:42 PM
Your hand is face up already as AA with the limp rr. So if you don't bet the flop it's going to be obvious you have AA w/o nut As draw. If I were villain and you checked I would try to bet you off the hand. B/f is the play here
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08-20-2015 , 01:46 PM
First hand - would have been a light call if you played it more aggressively, as played he probably figured you wanted a cheap look at your draw, bricked it, and then led out hoping he did the same. I'd have called as well with 6's full in that spot.

AA hand - preflop in a game with a rock, my experience $160 or $200 probably made no difference, other then if it was $200 asian lady might have put the last 20 in preflop. Post flop I think bet out is best personally, easy way to find out where you are, if you let him bet into you could end up getting setup for a bluff later on, esp since your hand only has the Ac as a clean out to improve atm.
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