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04-09-2014 , 01:01 PM
Hey guys, sorry if this is a basic question, haven't played poker in a really long time.

The game started as 1/2 NL, but degenerated into 1/2/5 PLO. Overall the game has been playing pretty loose passively. People not C-betting dry boards w/ overpair, people not betting NFD, people limping AAxx in LP, w/ 40-50bbs.

S1 (300) is a former dealer, but doesn't play much PLO, is the only player (other than me) to show down a bluff

S2 (~200) is unknown

S3 (~200) is also unknown, but played pretty tight in NL rounds

S4 (~200) has been in the games for awhile, but is notoriously bad/loosepassive. Has tricky weird slowplay lines

S5 (~400) is our main villain this hand. Plays tight/aggro, but doesn't have much finesse to his game (ie, in NL, he limp/called 88 in a straddle pot, and on 678 open shoved for 3x pot). Don't know much about his PLO game.

S6 (~300) another loosepassive.

S7 (~200) is a nit

We are S8 (~300), and are easily the most aggressive at the table. Showed down a couple bluffs earlier, but have not have a showdown in a while. (our red line would be killing it ).

UTG straddles to 10. Everyone limps, except S7

We are in the BB w/ QJT6 and limp along.

Flop (pot - 70): T86

We check, planning to C/C, but it checks through.

Turn (pot - 70): T86K

We lead for 35. S4 calls, S5 calls.

River (pot - 130): T86K6

We lead for 90 (w/ ~140 behind), S4 folds, S5 insta-announces all in.

Villain is never ever ever bluffing here. I think he bets flop w/ TT**/88**. He could def have KK** and slowplay the turn, and he has a lot of K6**/T6** in his range as well. I don't know if he shoves 86** on the end, so I have to assume he might some % of the time, but in my head the times he shoves 86** are offset by the times he decides to check back flop w/ TT**/88**.

We're getting like 3:1 on our money hoping for a chop or an outside chance he has 86**. What's our play?

-Comments on all streets welcome.
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04-09-2014 , 01:58 PM
Pretty easy fold. I'm c/cing this river a decent % as well because so much missed that may stab even if it is a loose passive game (and what hands do you get value from otr?).
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04-09-2014 , 07:59 PM
IŽd just give up on the flop. Not calling with top and bottom on a made straight board with a flushdraw.

Turn lead is meh. DonŽt want to bloat this pot. We can consider a call once the action comes back to us, but we need a lot more meat on our bone to consider leading OOP here.

River is an easy check call as stated above. As played fold and move on.
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04-10-2014 , 10:51 AM
^^ correct on all counts. Might even c/f river if a very passive player pots it
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04-10-2014 , 05:13 PM
I'm not leading turn, ever.
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04-10-2014 , 06:27 PM
Fold pre, check-fold flop, check-call turn, check-call river.
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04-12-2014 , 12:53 PM
I think every street should start with a check on this runout. Flop I'd fold, turn I'd call if villain who bet is incompetent, river I'd call unless villain never bluffs.

I'm not sure we can turn a profit on turn with a check/call on turn if the bettor is solid.

As played fold river.
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