Does it entertain you to sit long hours and play roughly 10% of hands even for the money u make?

MD Live?

How aggressive pre are the players in your game should affect your preflop % a lot. In my local game three bets are very rare, 8/10 players will never ever three bet so I play a lot of hands pre in spots where SOP would be auto fold. But they are stations post so if I make a decent hand its value-town.

I went to Vegas and it became clear after playing a few days I would not be able to beat the game playing the same style, but the players were much more aggressive pre and played much better post flop. I didn't play in those games much once I figured I was out classed, and would need to study and play in that style of game a lot more to be +EV

good discussion.

i agree with poster that said go for high sets and high/nut flushes to make your money.

2 questions:

in a very loose passive game, i assume that it's ok to put in one big blind to play with many hands, but what is going to happen to make your 9662 6/2 clubs a big winner. 2 nines on the board or 2 sixes on the board.... odds of that are very very low.

related to 1st question, my local game is pretty good but it's all regulars having a good time. should you be making some small negative EV pre-flop calls to fit into the game? what happens when you nit it up day after day at the same table of fun loving regulars? do they shun you eventually? does the game break early?

I think this game takes a lot of study and a huge bankroll. I lost 3 times in a row pf all in with AAxx for a total of 9k

The second one was AAQ7ds vs AA75ddd flop 944 turn 5 river 5

. But i digress.

Nobody cares if people play ultra tight in this game because its a time rake and nobody minds playing with lower variance. Its a different story at 2/2/5 tho where they rake per hand. The dead seats do kill the game.

Feel like ive put 2000 hands thru equity calcs and i still cant get a grip on what an optimum VPIP is for omaha so i guess this thread will be ongoing.

Also imo the value in the game is bluffing because showdowns are traded fairly equally. A terrible player can still have massive equity in pots without knowing it. Ive seen fish rack up huge stacks which basically never happens in hold em. The value in the game vs a lot of players is winning a lot of small pots where they fold out all of their equity. You can sometimes count a paired board as a virtual out because ppl snap fold rivers when the board pairs and only see rivers when thier turn hand makes the nuts

Hand 8 (the dangler problem)

Hero is straddle 2.5k

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Two limps ep, decent player raises to 50 OTB, hero?

good players in this game raise a ton of buttons as do i

No you should NEVER make a -ev call. Most players just dont know what they are thats why this thread is here

I think you should play tighter than you think in this sort of game. You can loosen up in late position when you have a chance to steal unwanted pots post-flop, but you should still be folding a lot in EP. With a ton of people seeing the flop, you still want nut-peddling hands most of the time. I fold some hands with a suited ace in a game like this. I fold some double-suited hands on the button in a multi-way limped pot, even if I would raise on the button against one limper.

In NLHE:T&P, Sklansky & Miller write about the idea of intentionally making relatively small mistakes, such as chasing a weak draw with slightly less than the correct odds, if it induces your opponent to make more costly errors later in the hand or on a future hand.

However, I don't think it makes sense to loosen up pre in PLO and play junk to fit in unless it is a very juicy home game and playing too tight won't get you invited back.

Since PLO usually sees multi-way pots, I don't think there is a single optimal VPIP. It could be multimodal, where playing with a certain style and 20% VPIP might have around the same EV as a different style and a VPIP of closer to 35%.

I'm okay with folding or calling, but I usually fold unless I think the pot is likely to end up heads-up. I'm not inclined to ever 3bet here, even if the trey made me double-suited.

get it in

How much of a difference in your non-folding hand range on the button for six people limping in ahead of you vs an UTG raiser and five callers? (Assume everyone is at least 200-300BB deep) For me, there is a significant difference, for some of my reg opponents, there is little difference. Like, I might play KT83ds in the first scenario (might still fold), but definitely not in the second scenario. (I would sometimes raise vs one limper.)

Here's one:

I actually like re potting this hand and isolating nit fish. this hand flops awesome and easy to get away from if we don't connect. also, we can put a lot of pressure on nit fish on boards that aren't connecting with his tight range

Hand 1 and Hand 2 is a clear fold
Hand 3 listen to others opinion
Hand 4 is a clear fold
Hand 5 I’m big fish I will call