Hero hasn't gotten out of line yet - has a stack of about $350 and is maybe down $150 from my initial buy in.

Villain 1 ($500) - just sat down so no real reads yet

Villain 2 ($2000) - likes to gamble but isn't an idiot. Probably isn't 3betting light pre flop but will and has made some bad calls IMO. He doubled me up earlier when I had the nut flush. He said he had a straight and figured I just had a blocker. Not sure if I would ever bluff him.


Hero BTN - 9TJQ

Villain 1 - SB

Villain 2 - BB

A few calls - and hero makes it $15
Villain 1 calls
Villain 2 3bets to $52

Folds to me and I think about jamming it in but I have position so I just call
Villain 1 calls

Pot is like $160 - $170 and I have $300ish behind. Every one covers


This is where it gets interesting

AQ5


SB checks
BB bets $80
Hero ???

I'm lost is this a 3 handed game? if not why are we making it 15? what position are we in? is it UTG or BU?

I'd just call since given SPR I don't expect us to have any FE against nut flush draws to bother jamming - this way we increase our pot odds by inviting SB to a turn.

Insta shove is all I can think of.

no its like 6 max - 1 call and folded to me.

I agree I have no FE and calling is best and it's very likely BB has 2 pair+


As for making it $15 - I don't really think it maters much. I could of made it $24 max

why is this better than calling? Than SB can't jump in and we aren't going to win with a bare queen all that often. We have to hit to win this hand and our fold equity is very low.

15 and 24 is quite a difference

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In live PLO? I don't think so.

ya it would of gotten called in both spots. While I don't mind - we aren't very deep so making it $24 - $15 is not going to stop me from getting stacks in. Live PLO plays very loose and is usually multi way pre flop. Generally it's rare for a player to fold pre flop so you really want to play post flop since it's very hard to get it heads up.

As for calling the 3bet - I believe he pot it - I think thats fine too.

As for jamming flop - I did not because I wanted SB in there as well and for the other reasons stated.

So I called the $80
SB called the $80

and turn was a 6

SB checks
BB bets pot - Somewhere around $400 -

Do I have the odds to profitable call this assuming BB has 2pair+ and SB will fold as he looks like he is getting ready to muck. At the time I didn't think I did so I folded but looking back at this i'm not sure.

There was $400 in the pot and I only had $220 left. But my equity was probably 25% or less assuming he only has a bare 2 pair or set - and no blockers but the card player omaha calculator seems bugged and doesn't like to give me less than 25% if I change one card to a heart.

had I only had $150 left in front of me I feel like this might be more of a clear call.

i'm lost ... Why do we have 0% fold equity now?

Also why are we keeping SB around?

We get heartless kings KKJTds to fold ... some other bad rundowns to call including 5678hh ... HU i think calling is better suited.. but MW our hand isn't strong enough imo to win a bunch of showdowns..

I like jamming here taking it down a small percent and letting variance do it's thing with the other 80% ... SB would be getting 4:1 here (and never folding turn) so when you get burned by his junky 3467dd (this is before i read 6 turn btw) don't get mad at me lol jk

No seriously I want to know why calling is better than a jam here

Also why is a loose player's range definitely "2pr or better" after 3betting a button raise and cbetting 1/2 pot 3-way on a relatively wet board??

I would pot it pre and definitely raise the flop.

not trying to be a douche op but this doesn't belong in hsplo and the decision is trivial.

You mean just get it in pre flop or call the 3bet?

Potting flop is fine but if you are never folding and you know the guy who 3bet pre is never folding than why not just call down? I know he's never folding because I asked him LOL and he was willing to get it in.



because it's live PLO and it's what he had - and he's loose pre flop - but haven't seen him make any bluffs post flop

Sorry. It was late and I was tired. I should have been more clear. I would raise the full pot to 24 pre and likely just flat the 3-bet.

On the flop, I'd gii and maybe see if I could get 2 boards out of him (but I'm still getting it in even if I can't RIT). His range is probably not that nutted here, and even if it is, we gots outttttttzzzzzzz.

Caveat: I'm bad at this game.

You have articulated precisely what I was thinking but didn't have the wherewithal to actually type. OP, listen to this guy.

online, the difference is about 9 bucks. live might be different, but imo about the same number, could be wrong tho

Maybe its just me but thats quite absurdly optimistic to hope KKJT no heart fold all the time and all 5678hh call?!

to be fair, we're far better off letting KKJT come alot assuming our two pair outs are not live.

also even if that play works, you're targetting a very negligible part of an overall range.

Slightly off topic but is boobsicles a fish? Based on his posts I would say yes but wanted to confirm before I completely dismissed him.

I would ck fold you have 3 suites to a possibly dominated flush draw putting your equity around 32% assuming your drawing live, plus the 3 bet is likely aces, I see two spots where you can easily be getting free rolled your only clean outs are 3 jacks to a gutter, and call folding is the worst thing you can do its like burning money there are too many turn cards that are absolutley horrible for you. best to avoid this spot as in later streets it will get tougher

I'm pretty inexperienced at PLO, so take my advice with a grain of salt.

Seems like your 2nd NFD is pretty good considering the Ah is on board (as in stronger than if you had the K high flush draw on AdQh5h for example). There are just fewer combinations of Kxhh that people play. Also, I really don't think BB only bets 80 with AA, making your Q worth quite a bit more than it normally would be.

I understand your thinking that you have no fold equity so you should maybe call to invite SB in, but I think your draw just isn't good enough. You would rather fold out the Qxxx and JTxx in sb's range so that you stand a greater chance of winning the entire pot when you hit your outs.

This is a great hand to 4-bet all in... Especially into a loose-live player who FOR SURE sensed weakness in such a small raise from position... Your 2bet should've been pot-sized to 25+

Then you flop...

Gut-shot to the nut straight
2nd nut flush draw

I think a c/c is the worst thing you can do on this flop. Either you shove and maybe BB will call it off being light... But I like folding here better cause he could easily block your straight and/or have your flush dominated... Giving him the lead preflop kills your hand cause it makes his range way too strong to just call off the 80$.

Like someone else said, the 80$ call on flop is burning money

I think a fold is positive EV if he has a set or just a better FD or both your going to be in bad shape I think villian will only continue if this flop hits his range harder than yours.