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$10/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): $2,871 (143.6 bb)
BB: $1,460 (73 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

Hero raises to $60, BB raises to $180, Hero calls $120

Flop: ($360) 3

(2 players)
BB bets $280, Hero raises to $1,199

Villain is very, very aggressive and will three bet any suited ace. He has c-bet most flops in the 20 mins we have been playing. He get 2-1 on the call for all the monies.

I like this, you'll have solid equity if called except against top set and you should have a bunch of FE. Seems like a v good spot to make a stand.

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07-12-2011 , 10:31 AM

#2027

Doorbread

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Originally Posted by Hoopster81

Villain is playing 100% pre, raising every button, calling every BB (like 4% 3bet over 300 hands), aggro/bluffy post

I haven't 3bet a ton overall but this is the third 3bet out of my last 5 BBs and I doubled him up like 5 minutes ago

1st 4bet.. timing pretty quick.. fold pre? fold flop?

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Dealt to Hero T

raises to $30, Hero raises to $90, raises to $270, Hero calls $180

FLOP ($540) K

Hero checks, bets $400,

mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn i guess u have to fold

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07-12-2011 , 02:55 PM

#2028

synopsys

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Originally Posted by KrachBummEnte

Hope it's fine to post in HSPLO as SSPLO doesn't have a quick checkup thread afaik and this isn't worth a topic I think.

Unknown Villain, very first hand.

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Dealt to Hero T

raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, calls $6

FLOP ($18) Q

Hero bets $12, raises to $34, Hero raises to $119, calls $57 (AI)

No way I can fold this ever?!

is this the bottom of your stack off range?

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07-13-2011 , 12:04 PM

#2029

jsnipes28

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Originally Posted by Hoopster81

raises to $30, Hero raises to $90, raises to $270, Hero calls $180

FLOP ($540) K

Hero checks, bets $400,

i would have a hard time folding flop, but doorbread said fold so idk.

from ur stats it seems he is kind of passive pre, but idk if that would change ip and with you having 3b 3/5 hands who knows if he just decides to 4b some rundown esp given 200bb stacks. i think i would prob c/c flop and proceed from there. may very well be wrong but idk this kind of player it just seems to likely that he is doing something screwy to just c/f the flop here. interested to hear other thoughts.

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07-13-2011 , 12:07 PM

#2030

jsnipes28

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Originally Posted by JMa

Hero raises to $60, BB raises to $180, Hero calls $120

Flop: ($360) 3

(2 players)
BB bets $280, Hero raises to $1,199

Villain is very, very aggressive and will three bet any suited ace. He has c-bet most flops in the 20 mins we have been playing. He get 2-1 on the call for all the monies.

kind of gross but i think you prob have to shove

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07-13-2011 , 12:11 PM

#2031

jsnipes28

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Originally Posted by JMa

^gotta be a shove, meh.

[converted_hand][hand_history]$10/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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Hero (BB): $2,209 (110.5 bb)
SB: $4,129 (206.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

SB raises to $60, Hero raises to $180, SB calls $120

Flop: ($360) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $269.25, Hero calls $269.25

Turn: ($898.50) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $440, Hero raises to $1,759.75 and is all-in

Against the same opponent as above. 2.5-1 for him on the call.

what's his betsizing been like in other 3b pots? i usually don't like making moves like this, but it seems ok. some read on his betsizing would help though.

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07-13-2011 , 12:26 PM

#2032

OmahaDonk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckBass

Villain plays pretty loose at 50/30 and seems somewhat tricky. Given my range is pretty much only straights, does villain ever get to this spot with KQTx hand? His sizing seemed large to me. Or am i just leveling myself.
My sizing seems a little small but I did want to keep him in due to his trickiness / my eq vs KQTx / no fd's on board etc.

Ongame Network $20/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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SB: $558.00
BB: $4.00
UTG: $2.00
Hero (CO): $4.00
BTN: $1.00

BB posts a big blind ($20)

Pre Flop: ($40.00) Hero is CO with Q

1 fold, Hero raises to $60, 2 folds, BB calls $60

Flop: ($44.00) 7

(2 players - 1 is all in)
BB checks, Hero bets $80, BB raises to $200, Hero raises to $400, BB calls $200

Turn: ($228.00) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $480, BB calls $480

River: ($12.00) 7

(2 players)
BB bets $1666, Hero folds

Final Pot: $12.00
Hero mucks Q

BB wins $1.00
(Rake: $11.00)

edit: dunno why HH messed up, pot is 1900 on river, eff stacks 4.2k start of the hand

He'll have busted wrap a small percentage of the time, but his raise on the flop looked like value - 3 pair or set. I think river is fold

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07-13-2011 , 12:49 PM

#2033

JMa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnipes28

what's his betsizing been like in other 3b pots? i usually don't like making moves like this, but it seems ok. some read on his betsizing would help though.

i dont like it either, but I don't know how to play it otherwise? I would hate to bet/fold the flop. On this board and turn I think he will shove over a turn lead with draws a ton, and that would suck for the same reason that bet/folding the flop does. C/C turn perhaps but I don't see myself doing that with a made hand.

re: betsizing. On the turn his bet is suspiciously small given the texture.

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07-13-2011 , 12:53 PM

#2034

Doorbread

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what are you doing on the flop jma?

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07-13-2011 , 12:59 PM

#2035

JMa

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with what? Are you guys never check-calling with made hands on the flop or with a small flush draw etc? The hand is too strong to bet/fold and too weak to check/raise imo.

Obviously, we are gonna have to lead on heart turns sometimes and when we hit our straight etc

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07-13-2011 , 02:06 PM

#2036

Doorbread

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t986

i dont think this hand is too strong to b/f and i dont like leading hearts

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07-13-2011 , 02:13 PM

#2037

OmahaDonk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doorbread

t986

i dont think this hand is too strong to b/f and i dont like leading hearts

+1 to bet/fold with mini-wrap on 2-tone - it's really only 6 clean outs

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07-13-2011 , 06:15 PM

#2038

urubu111

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Originally Posted by Doorbread

t986

i dont think this hand is too strong to b/f and i dont like leading hearts

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07-15-2011 , 01:08 PM

#2039

99centsaddsup

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Poker Stars, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $1,042 (173.7 bb)
UTG: $1,027.65 (171.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $697 (116.2 bb)
CO: $591 (98.5 bb)
BTN: $843.60 (140.6 bb)
SB: $676.50 (112.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K

UTG raises to $18, Hero calls $18, CO folds, BTN calls $18, SB folds, BB raises to $93, UTG calls $75, Hero calls $75, BTN calls $75

Flop: ($375) 7

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $252, Hero raises to $604 and is all-in

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CO: $878.05 (146.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $600 (100 bb)
SB: $1,548.75 (258.1 bb)
BB: $306.45 (51.1 bb)
MP: $861 (143.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3

2 folds, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $9, BB folds

Flop: ($30) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $21, SB calls $21

Turn: ($72) A

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $56, SB raises to $192

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CO: $2,113.75 (352.3 bb)
BTN: $1,936.75 (322.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,246.05 (207.7 bb)
BB: $762 (127 bb)
UTG: $600 (100 bb)
MP: $578.10 (96.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

UTG folds, MP raises to $18, 2 folds, Hero raises to $60, BB folds, MP calls $42

Flop: ($126) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $90, MP calls $90

Turn: ($306) 2

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wanted to shove hand 1 fold 2 and hand 3 our options are kinda ****ty

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07-15-2011 , 07:12 PM

#2040

Doorbread

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spew, ok, pot

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07-16-2011 , 07:04 AM

#2041

urubu111

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fold hand #1, pretty sure.

hand # i call. we have 6outs to boat + bluff on spades.

# yup, pot.

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07-16-2011 , 12:14 PM

#2042

Johan5390

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villain 70/38/10% 3b, only 60 hands, he hasnt limp/3b before, neither seen him pot c-bet (tho he potraised in 3b pot on 263cc vs my cb), donks alot but has folded to most of my c-bet so far, dunno if his range is too strong for a shove here or if its standard?

Poker Stars $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $624.50
BTN/SB: $682.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BB with 8

BTN/SB calls $3, Hero raises to $18, BTN/SB raises to $54, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($108.00) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $107.50, [color=red]Hero

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07-16-2011 , 04:11 PM

#2043

Doorbread

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shove isn't bad, call is better

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07-16-2011 , 05:31 PM

#2044

TGSM89

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i prefer shove

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07-16-2011 , 05:58 PM

#2045

Hoopster81

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call

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07-16-2011 , 06:54 PM

#2046

LOLlivepoker

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why is call>shove?

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07-16-2011 , 07:18 PM

#2047

Loctus

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Originally Posted by LOLlivepoker

why is call>shove?

By calling you're more likely to get to realize your equity when you aren't crushed by villain's hand instead of just flipping vs the bottom of his getting it in range and you avoid being pummeled for your entire stack if he's at the top of his range.

/micro PLO player

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07-17-2011 , 10:09 AM

#2048

urubu111

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i hate call... imo its a shove. plz someone explain why call ?

i disagree w/ loctus because imo we are AHEAD of some part of his range... and we could make bad folds on some turns. and if we hit we might do NOT get value from aces, kings.