Exactly what I was thinking.... just like NLHE, in spots where people rep like 1 hand: (1) they are repping a super narrow range, CALL; (2) they are repping such a narrow range so they shouldn't be bluffing since they know it, FOLD.

People just don't bluff there because everyone calls. He probably has k9 or 99.

agreed

Villain is on the passive side, he only really shows aggression on the flop, anything else after that is so rare it's most likely the nuts.

He only folds to the flop cbet 25% of the time. and turn 35%, river 67%

I checked flop because I felt that 11 flush cards+ 5+6+7+2+9+j+k (21 non heart cards) = disaster for me on the turn.

Or should I not care and bet flop and bluff any flush turn? I just don't think he folds 2p, he can get stationy


$10/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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SB: $5,224.75 (261.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $11,287.25 (564.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 Q T A
SB raises to $60, Hero raises to $180, SB calls $120

Flop: ($360) 8 4 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: ($360) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $120, Hero calls $120

first hand, dont know anything about him (fish? given his flop betsize), is this bad?

BB: $400.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $400.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 J 6 A
Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $24

Flop: ($72.00) 4 Q 3 (2 players)
BB bets $71.50, Hero raises to $286, BB raises to $364 all in, Hero calls $78 all in

Has to be standard?

Standard spot: Villain has a pretty tight 3betting range and is a bit fishy. Not sure if he ever folds to 4bets, likely no because I havent made a note of it:

MP: $840.00
CO: $457.70
BTN: $1177.65
SB: $550.80
BB: $843.90
Hero (UTG): $610.05

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is UTG with A Q A 3
Hero raises to $18, 4 folds, BB raises to $57, Hero raises to $174, BB calls $117

Flop: ($351.00) 7 8 6 (2 players)

It's hard for me to imagine crappier Aces. I usually check back here; am I the only one who 4B pre?

4bet with those aces seem terribad without a dynamic where he stacks off on mid-pair type hands on A-high boards

syous,

vs passive villain betting flop seems esp good

2+2=5,
cant be terrible....although i doubt we have much when he mashes pot. anyone like calling?

Really? I thought 4betting aces 100bb deep is like super standard always. He probably has some KK double suited and AKJQ in his range which we do very well against. The fact that the aces are crappy make them more difficult to play post flop and therefore a low STR must be beneficial right?

sorry thought it was 2/4, my bad

0 history with villian. he's a winning hsnl player. curious if you guys think a bluffraise is good in his shoes against the vast majority of 25/50 regs? Or a raise with a queen high straight so that I fold for the chop?

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Board:
UTG: $996
UTG+1: $10,491
CO: $5,075
Button: $10,983
SB: $1,500
BB: $20,442.50
MP1: $5,000
MP2: $10,173
MP4: $1,000

Dealt to UTG+1 J T A 3

Pre-flop:
(4 folds), UTG+1 raises to $150, (3 folds), BB calls $100

Flop: ($325) Q 9 6 (2 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $250, BB calls $250

Turn: ($825) T (2 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $822, BB calls $822

River: ($2,469) 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $1,250, BB raises to $6,216,

So he's definitely new to plo?

I'm torn. If he has KJ how can he not raise the turn?!?!?! I guess if he's afraid of shipping it in and getting freerolled then we would have to assume a few things:

HE HAS to assume that our first read would be this is a bluff or a Qhigh straight at the very best. We would almost never give him credit here for KJ because KJ pops the turn.

I would also assume because of this he has to assume we would never fold. Even through all the I know that you know crap, the answer would be to sigh call because the line is so FOS and he's repping the exact nuts.

So I would fold. Just because he's a winning hsnl player, I don't think means he's going to go ******* crazy on the river. He's bluffing into the very top of your range, doesn't seem very solid.

fact that we have Ad makes me want to fold but our river sizing and his turn play make me want to call.....meh think i shrug fold esp. @ FR and vs. someone new.

despite turn action doubt he is turning KKXXhh into a bluff nearly often enough for our call to be profitable and even though we bet sorta small on river, i dont expect him to cr our hand for value since he can easily be up against a higher straight. we have many more KJXX than j10xx or 7xxxx hands in our EP opening range.

villains are 2 good regs. This a standard bet/call if we get it in against 1 person? Seems close and I suck figuring this out with math.
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Board:
SB: $5,007
BB: $6,081
UTG: $41,911
UTG+1: $13,257
CO: $12,500
Button: $5,270

Dealt to SB A T 9 K

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), CO raises to $150, Button calls $150, SB raises to $685, (1 folds), CO calls $560, Button calls $560

Flop: ($2,180) 8 Q 9 (3 Players)

Donkey_king, I would think it's close with all your backdoors yes, but I think I may be stacking off too light in 3way 3bet pot these days. So i'm not sure.

Will they stab light if you check? You could get some dead money, protection for your c/f range, and visibility by checking with intention to ship often.

gross spot imo, hate folding that much equity but hate getting it in vs a resonable range even more

river sizing is pretty bad imo, makes it more likely he air balls it and minimizes FE to chops. good hsnl reg will likely recognize the bet for what it is given board texture making it less likely for him to hero, and those nl kids love to do that in 4 card game. would be pretty cool to shove the 2nd nuts here

c/f

^^ actually in the akt9 hand i'd b/f we have 27% vs range of jt, q9, sets. jt rundowns will be reduced with btn unless he's a big nit or these is a mongo fish blinds but shouldn't expect him to shove anything on this flop anyway given texture / pos (atleast imo) and we'll have enough good turns to shove if you expect him to float weakish hands.

quick question: whats the avrg fold BB % in a HU match vs regs?

If I had lie KK8T id prefer to jam here or
AA8T without BDFD...

WIth AA8T and two BDFD, I prefer to call and let an airball pick up some dominated equity.

Hes got slightly over a potsized bet left, and I think its more likely ull get a 2 barrel from a hand with poor equity, than a turn c/f with a hand that has equity on the flop.

I vote call, shove turn...
Curious what some accomplished PLO players think about my thought process?

Seems fine to me if you have good reasons to think he can donk pot/fold flop often enough. Otherwise, just tank/raise pot seems better to me.

But without any info. Given he opens UTG (and dont nail this flop that well usually), i would call and shove turn as well assuming he might have a donk/fold range on this flop.

h1: was thinking same about river but i feel like bigger wont get called by worse often. how much do you make it and whats your plan if he raises?

villain is loose but not brain dead. Co is likely a donkey.
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SB ($292)
BB ($280)
UTG ($2,017)
Hero ($2,135)
CO ($1,037)
BTN ($2,361)

Dealt to Hero 5 6 6 5

UTG raises to $30, Hero raises to $105, CO calls $105, fold, fold, [color=red]BB raises to $280 (AI), UTG raises to $1,055, Hero folds?!