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07-18-2012, 10:30 AM
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#3571
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
easy call
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07-19-2012, 01:58 AM
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#3572
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banned
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
yup having 55 is even better cause you will be able to miss and still win the pot more often, while I am a fan of bluffing the single blocker 2 > 1
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07-19-2012, 02:24 AM
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#3573
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adept
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
Zacharrr, nice level with your atrociously played hand.
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07-19-2012, 05:35 AM
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#3574
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
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Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
villain is aufangzeb... standard i think rite?
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PL Omaha $20(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($775)
BB ($2,000)
Hero ($2,774)
UTG+1 ($3,067)
CO ($2,030)
BTN ($2,000)
Dealt to Hero 7  8  7  T
Hero raises to $40, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $20
FLOP ($90) 9  K  6
BB checks, Hero bets $80, BB calls $80
TURN ($250) 9  K  6  A
BB checks, Hero checks
RIVER ($250) 9  K  6  A  T
BB bets $160, Hero raises to $580, BB raises to $999, Hero folds
BB wins $1,407
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I play all streets differently as well but river I would make smaller a bit
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07-19-2012, 10:07 AM
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#3575
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
b/c trn, call
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07-19-2012, 08:28 PM
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#3576
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
zach, i 2nd brl that turn. awesome card to 2nd brl. as played i like your river play. id make it 520 btw.
i took a big shot today... not sure what i should do because i was really underolled. i had 40k roll and playing for 50%, so if i lose this hand its like 50% of my online roll. if i was rolled id call or shove. given i was sooo underolled, fold is ok to reduce variance? or close eyes and pray?
3bettor is reason im at table, 57/24 3bet 20%. CO is ilari, BTN and SB are 50/100-25/50 regs taking a shot.
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Hero ($36,805)
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BTN ($66,757)
Hero antes $80
UTG+1 antes $80
CO antes $80
BTN antes $80
SB antes $80
BB antes $80
Dealt to Hero A Q 5 T
Hero raises to $1,480, fold, CO calls $1,480, BTN calls $1,480, SB calls $1,280, BB raises to $9,360, hero ?
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07-20-2012, 08:19 AM
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#3577
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
Don't take 2bi shots?
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07-20-2012, 09:55 AM
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#3578
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
I'm calling. You have a good multiway hand, so you wouldnt mind if they others come in behind you. And if you call and somebody behind you decides to get it in, its usually not that bad 3 or 4ways.
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07-20-2012, 10:12 AM
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#3579
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grinder
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
whilst the 3bettor might be the reason youre at the table, i dont think youre making much money either from flatting and having the most likely scenario be everyone else calls, bb jams bunch of flops, or from 4betting and maybe being around breakeven vs his range assuming everyone else gets out of the way. if i did decide not to fold i think 4b>>>call.
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07-28-2012, 05:15 PM
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#3580
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeri
I'm calling. You have a good multiway hand, so you wouldnt mind if they others come in behind you. And if you call and somebody behind you decides to get it in, its usually not that bad 3 or 4ways.
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thx for your answer, but actually i asked another thing.
i know call is the best play if we look at this at a poker hand or at big blinds. im calling all day this hand. but that was half of my roll at table and my stack rep a huge part of my life roll.
given this fact, you still call in this spot?
hand i just played, utg is a whale 70/50 3b 25%, mp is a reg, btn is a fish 60/30 0% 3bet.
std shove?
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Hero ($880)
BB ($1,000)
UTG ($1,468)
UTG+1 ($692)
CO ($2,824)
BTN ($616)
Dealt to Hero A  3  A  3
UTG raises to $30, UTG+1 calls $30, fold, BTN calls $30, Hero raises to $160, fold, UTG calls $130, UTG+1 calls $130, BTN calls $130
FLOP ($650) 9  6  2
Hero bets $647, UTG raises to $1,308 (AI), UTG+1 folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $73 (AI)
TURN ($2,090) 9  6  2  9
RIVER ($2,090) 9 6 2 9 T
Hero shows A 3 A 3
(Pre 73%, Flop 14.0%, Turn 12.5%)
UTG shows 2 6 2 3
(Pre 27%, Flop 86.0%, Turn 87.5%)
UTG wins $2,087
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07-28-2012, 07:21 PM
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#3581
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
With 3 players behind i think it's a mandatory check...
Villains being whale/fish i think hurt us instead of helping us because if UTG was facing your shove and he had a naked T hi flush draw he might think " **** i can't call, i have 2 players behind" and that's a big gain for you when people fold so much equity. But in this situation where a whale will just say " lol, i have a fd, call" , it will actually hurts your eq multiway a lot.
I think your plan must be stick it in vs 1 player but get away if 2 or more players get it in... As played, results would be probably the same, but i think flop check and decide is superior
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07-29-2012, 04:09 AM
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#3582
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journeyman
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
Quote:
Originally Posted by urubu111
i took a big shot today... not sure what i should do because i was really underolled. i had 40k roll and playing for 50%, so if i lose this hand its like 50% of my online roll. if i was rolled id call or shove. given i was sooo underolled, fold is ok to reduce variance? or close eyes and pray?
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urubu the question you are asking is should i gamble with half of my Roll (this hand) or not and only you can answer this not others.
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07-29-2012, 04:25 AM
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#3583
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
Quote:
Originally Posted by urubu111
thx for your answer, but actually i asked another thing.
i know call is the best play if we look at this at a poker hand or at big blinds. im calling all day this hand. but that was half of my roll at table and my stack rep a huge part of my life roll.
given this fact, you still call in this spot?
hand i just played, utg is a whale 70/50 3b 25%, mp is a reg, btn is a fish 60/30 0% 3bet.
std shove?
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PL Omaha $10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($880)
BB ($1,000)
UTG ($1,468)
UTG+1 ($692)
CO ($2,824)
BTN ($616)
Dealt to Hero A  3  A  3
UTG raises to $30, UTG+1 calls $30, fold, BTN calls $30, Hero raises to $160, fold, UTG calls $130, UTG+1 calls $130, BTN calls $130
FLOP ($650) 9  6  2
Hero bets $647, UTG raises to $1,308 (AI), UTG+1 folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $73 (AI)
TURN ($2,090) 9  6  2  9
RIVER ($2,090) 9 6 2 9 T
Hero shows A 3 A 3
(Pre 73%, Flop 14.0%, Turn 12.5%)
UTG shows 2 6 2 3
(Pre 27%, Flop 86.0%, Turn 87.5%)
UTG wins $2,087
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In that case i fold fast and run with the moneys while cursing myself for being such a fool
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07-29-2012, 05:45 AM
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#3584
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: bemyguestbud/l0ve2playu
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
Is this a close spot between a call and a fold, knowing that stick will get it in lighter then most other regs (if i call)?
PokerStars Hand #83995285517: Omaha Pot Limit ($50/$100 USD) - 2012/07/29 5:40:32 ET
Table 'Noel III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: hila12 ($14085 in chips)
Seat 2: M.O.P. ($2800 in chips)
Seat 3: longerpig ($13362.50 in chips)
Seat 4: L0ve2playU ($23116.50 in chips)
Seat 5: St1ckman ($10000 in chips)
Seat 6: azn_baller3 ($12403.35 in chips)
azn_baller3: posts small blind $50
hila12: posts big blind $100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to L0ve2playU [Jc 8d 8c Jd]
M.O.P.: raises $150 to $250
longerpig: folds
L0ve2playU: calls $250
St1ckman: raises $900 to $1150
azn_baller3: folds
hila12: folds
M.O.P.: raises $1650 to $2800 and is all-in
L0ve2playU: folds
St1ckman: calls $1650
*** FLOP *** [6h 6c Ts]
*** TURN *** [6h 6c Ts] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [6h 6c Ts 9c] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
M.O.P.: shows [As 4d Ac 5h] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
St1ckman: shows [Th Qc 4c Ah] (a flush, Queen high)
St1ckman collected $5995 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6000 | Rake $5
Board [6h 6c Ts 9c 2c]
Seat 1: hila12 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: M.O.P. showed [As 4d Ac 5h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 3: longerpig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: L0ve2playU folded before Flop
Seat 5: St1ckman (button) showed [Th Qc 4c Ah] and won ($5995) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: azn_baller3 (small blind) folded before Flop
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07-29-2012, 07:39 AM
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#3585
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veteran
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,749
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***
thoughts on shoving it? Give stickman a range-you know MOP has aa, a rundowns and good kings and sticky never has aa. I think the JJ88 will be dominating a bunch of his range-but still not sure what the right play is.
Im sure theres ways you can justify calling-like odds of hitting flop hard enough to get in + being an easy decision with your hand + a very good chance of seeing the turn also.
Id fold in your situation urubu.
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