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Old 02-07-2012, 03:18 PM   #3016
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

urub you folding turn there? river? 9if u r villian)
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:15 PM   #3017
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

think he meant 1st hand which is the one im looing for advice on aswell, 2nd one was just to show that villain called me down kinda light a few mins earlier, at least considering we have no history
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:04 PM   #3018
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

would like a couple of opinions: 6max, if a decent reg is 3b you ~20% in position 100-150bb deep, do you 4b/fold/call:

7654ds
JT98ss
QQJ6ss
AKJ5ss
8899ds
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:34 PM   #3019
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

I 4b/call JT98ss
might even just fold QQJ6ss to the 3b, maybe 4b/fold it, definitely not 4b/calling it.
AKJ5ss I 4b/fold mostly (I think 4b/call has to be bad with this)
8899ds no idea, I've never really thought about 4betting these types of hands since they are pretty easy to play post but its an interesting idea, but in the past I mostly flat it.
7654ds if I'm tilted I probably 4b/call, if I'm not tilted I think I just flat the 3b. Been awhile since I've played cash seriously online though so could be a little rusty.

EDIT: If you are saying we are 4betting no matter what with all of the above hands, I would 4b/c JT98ss, 8899DS and 7654DS and I would 4b/fold the other 2.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:45 AM   #3020
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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a few hands earlier this hand occured vs him btw

Poker Stars $1000.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $2902.00
CO: $2622.33
BTN: $47.43
SB: $1372.00
Hero (BB): $1000.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with 8 T 5 A
3 folds, SB raises to $30, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($60.00) T 8 6 (2 players)
SB bets $40.00, Hero calls $40

Turn: ($140.00) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $120.00, Hero raises to $300, SB calls $180

River: ($740.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $630.00, SB calls $630

Final Pot: $2000.00
SB shows A 6 K 3
Hero shows 8 T 5 A
Hero wins $1997.00
(Rake: $3.00)
Why can't PokerStars love me like this too?
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:15 AM   #3021
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

they like ppl from northern europe i guess

thoughts on 1st hand c-king?
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:09 AM   #3022
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Would have check raised more ~176,
(as played) would bet more on the turn ~317,
Would have made it slightly smaller ~490 - 535.

Think we have different table images though, not sure if I would bet if I were Johan5390.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:53 AM   #3023
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

2-5 Live, 8 handed.

UTG - Hero ($2000)
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BTN - V1 ($2000)
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Preflop: Hero has Q Q 9 4
Hero calls $5; 2 folds; CO raises to $25; V1 calls; SB folds; BB calls

Flop ($100, 4 players): K 8 3

3 checks; V1 bets $100. BB folds. Hero folds, CO folds.

Reads: V1 is good, nitty preflop. Capable of potstealing in position. Sizing is irrelevant as in live games, most players only use PSBs. Hero's image is good/tricky. Unconcerned about CO, as he should be betting his own hand most of the time here.

Upon further thought, I think I should have c/r/f to $260.
If he smooth calls after I raise, I would probably just check all non-Q turns and give up. Seems really weak, but I think this line is probably best.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:30 PM   #3024
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

In QQ94 ds hand, line is too weak for sure. Line is opponent specific. I fold pf btw or raise, limping is worst.

My hand:
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PL Omaha $4(BB)
SB ($659)
BB ($1,158)
UTG ($705)
UTG+1 ($110)
CO ($400)
Hero ($1,301)

CO posts $4

Dealt to Hero 7 7 K K

fold, fold, CO checks, Hero raises to $18, fold, BB calls $14, CO calls $14

FLOP ($56) 2 Q 8

BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $42, BB folds, CO calls $42

TURN ($140) 2 Q 8 6

CO checks, Hero bets $105, CO calls $105

RIVER ($350) 2 Q 8 6 A

CO bets $235 (AI), Hero ?
Note says that villain bluffs rivers, but more on flushes straights etc. Villain is fishy and modestly aggro at times.
I figure he has to think I'm going to bluff catch a lot here, so if he thinks I will call, I should...
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:31 PM   #3025
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Not sure how you can say folding QQ94ds pre is better than limping. I don't raise PF because in a live game, I still expect to get 3 or 4 callers, and QQ94ds isn't a great hand multiway OOP.


In your hand, I would be very tempted to hero call. Any two-pair should push turn; a lot of flush draws (eg nfd) would push on the turn. So we only have to calculate chances he rivered 2 pair. Seems more likely he has one pair gutshot on the flop/turn, and the Ace shouldn't pair him too often.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:50 PM   #3026
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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Old 02-10-2012, 05:59 AM   #3027
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In QQ94 ds hand, line is too weak for sure. Line is opponent specific. I fold pf btw or raise, limping is worst.

My hand:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB)
SB ($659)
BB ($1,158)
UTG ($705)
UTG+1 ($110)
CO ($400)
Hero ($1,301)

CO posts $4

Dealt to Hero 7 7 K K

fold, fold, CO checks, Hero raises to $18, fold, BB calls $14, CO calls $14

FLOP ($56) 2 Q 8

BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $42, BB folds, CO calls $42

TURN ($140) 2 Q 8 6

CO checks, Hero bets $105, CO calls $105

RIVER ($350) 2 Q 8 6 A

CO bets $235 (AI), Hero ?
Note says that villain bluffs rivers, but more on flushes straights etc. Villain is fishy and modestly aggro at times.
I figure he has to think I'm going to bluff catch a lot here, so if he thinks I will call, I should...
This is such a weird line to take from villain. imo if he knows that you are very likely to bluff catch assuming you take out sets from his range you should fold river. Also would be nice to know his fold to flop cbet %. With the pot being 3way on the flop and him being OOP makes it less likely that hes got a bare 1p with or without gutshot type hand that turn more equity but feels that you will be bet calling a lot of draws that beat him on the turn and decide that call turn shove river is best. As for hands that have you beat I think he shoves A89T not suited to the ace for value on the river as he probably expects you to call most of the time with a hand like Axxx w spades that he thinks you will be checking back OTR.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:06 AM   #3028
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would like a couple of opinions: 6max, if a decent reg is 3b you ~20% in position 100-150bb deep, do you 4b/fold/call:

7654ds
JT98ss
QQJ6ss
AKJ5ss
8899ds
7654ds 4bet sometimes, call sometimes
JT98ss call
QQJ6ss 4bet or fold depending on dynamics
AKJ5ss 4bet or fold depending on dynamics
8899ds call???

also gotta take position into consideration obv. Where we raised from, where he 3bet from and also whether he knows that we adjust our raising range depending on whos on btn and blinds.
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:57 PM   #3029
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Re: ***HSPLO QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Quick preflop, utg is a 48/31 reg, doesn't fold to 3 bets much, CO is a tightish TAG, and SB if a 60/12 fish. UTG has aces here close to 100%. Do I see a flop with this type of hand in a multi or try to push people out? Fold?

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PL Omaha $6(BB) Replayer
SB ($394)
BB ($820)
UTG ($2,701)
Hero ($609)
CO ($1,653)
BTN ($1,558)

Dealt to Hero 8 J T 3

UTG raises to $21, Hero raises to $72, CO calls $72, fold, SB calls $69, fold, [color=red]UTG raises to $304, Hero raises to $609?
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Old 02-12-2012, 03:36 AM   #3030
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fold pre imo,**** pos, can be overcalled by dominated hands easily. but if the board is 223,u can stack off those aces.
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