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02-09-2012 , 04:50 PM
need sweat, pm please
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02-10-2012 , 06:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadScientist
In QQ94 ds hand, line is too weak for sure. Line is opponent specific. I fold pf btw or raise, limping is worst.

My hand:
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PL Omaha $4(BB)
SB ($659)
BB ($1,158)
UTG ($705)
UTG+1 ($110)
CO ($400)
Hero ($1,301)

CO posts $4

Dealt to Hero 7 7 K K

fold, fold, CO checks, Hero raises to $18, fold, BB calls $14, CO calls $14

FLOP ($56) 2 Q 8

BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $42, BB folds, CO calls $42

TURN ($140) 2 Q 8 6

CO checks, Hero bets $105, CO calls $105

RIVER ($350) 2 Q 8 6 A

CO bets $235 (AI), Hero ?
Note says that villain bluffs rivers, but more on flushes straights etc. Villain is fishy and modestly aggro at times.
I figure he has to think I'm going to bluff catch a lot here, so if he thinks I will call, I should...
This is such a weird line to take from villain. imo if he knows that you are very likely to bluff catch assuming you take out sets from his range you should fold river. Also would be nice to know his fold to flop cbet %. With the pot being 3way on the flop and him being OOP makes it less likely that hes got a bare 1p with or without gutshot type hand that turn more equity but feels that you will be bet calling a lot of draws that beat him on the turn and decide that call turn shove river is best. As for hands that have you beat I think he shoves A89T not suited to the ace for value on the river as he probably expects you to call most of the time with a hand like Axxx w spades that he thinks you will be checking back OTR.
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02-10-2012 , 07:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adiprene1
would like a couple of opinions: 6max, if a decent reg is 3b you ~20% in position 100-150bb deep, do you 4b/fold/call:

7654ds
JT98ss
QQJ6ss
AKJ5ss
8899ds
7654ds 4bet sometimes, call sometimes
JT98ss call
QQJ6ss 4bet or fold depending on dynamics
AKJ5ss 4bet or fold depending on dynamics
8899ds call???

also gotta take position into consideration obv. Where we raised from, where he 3bet from and also whether he knows that we adjust our raising range depending on whos on btn and blinds.
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02-11-2012 , 06:57 PM
Quick preflop, utg is a 48/31 reg, doesn't fold to 3 bets much, CO is a tightish TAG, and SB if a 60/12 fish. UTG has aces here close to 100%. Do I see a flop with this type of hand in a multi or try to push people out? Fold?

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SB ($394)
BB ($820)
UTG ($2,701)
Hero ($609)
CO ($1,653)
BTN ($1,558)

Dealt to Hero 8 J T 3

UTG raises to $21, Hero raises to $72, CO calls $72, fold, SB calls $69, fold, [color=red]UTG raises to $304, Hero raises to $609?
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02-12-2012 , 04:36 AM
fold pre imo,**** pos, can be overcalled by dominated hands easily. but if the board is 223,u can stack off those aces.
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02-13-2012 , 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnsabre
Quick preflop, utg is a 48/31 reg, doesn't fold to 3 bets much, CO is a tightish TAG, and SB if a 60/12 fish. UTG has aces here close to 100%. Do I see a flop with this type of hand in a multi or try to push people out? Fold?

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PL Omaha $6(BB) Replayer
SB ($394)
BB ($820)
UTG ($2,701)
Hero ($609)
CO ($1,653)
BTN ($1,558)

Dealt to Hero 8 J T 3

UTG raises to $21, Hero raises to $72, CO calls $72, fold, SB calls $69, fold, [color=red]UTG raises to $304, Hero raises to $609?
As played, id jam
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02-14-2012 , 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adiprene1
would like a couple of opinions: 6max, if a decent reg is 3b you ~20% in position 100-150bb deep, do you 4b/fold/call:

7654ds
JT98ss
QQJ6ss
AKJ5ss
8899ds
7654ds: Sometimes call, sometimes 4bet

JT89ss: Usually call, sometimes 4bet

QQJ6ss: Fold

AKJ5ss: 4bet/folding looks cool but is super exploitable. I would still do it sometimes, and also 4bet/stack sometimes. And flat sometimes.

8899ds: call
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02-15-2012 , 01:30 PM
    Poker Stars, $2/$4, $0.80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11891352

    Hero (SB): $1,750.74 (437.7 bb)
    BB: $1,000 (250 bb)
    CO: $480 (120 bb)
    BTN: $755.61 (188.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with T J J K
    CO folds, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $43.20, BB folds, BTN calls $31.20

    Flop: ($93.60) 7 K 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $69.07, BTN raises to $184.19, Hero raises to $644.67, BTN raises to $711.61, Hero calls $66.94




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    02-15-2012 , 01:58 PM
    Not that much of a decision with the double backdoor imo. Doing fine against a very strong range.

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    board: k79
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    kdjdjsts44.48% 258,16917,471
    KK**,99**,77**,K9**,QJT*55.52% 324,36017,471
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    02-15-2012 , 01:58 PM
    standard.
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    02-15-2012 , 02:02 PM
    Ok it was the 3b pree i thought people would dislike
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    02-15-2012 , 02:09 PM
    can't imagine how tight a player's btn opening range would have to be to make this not a 3bet.
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    02-15-2012 , 05:18 PM
    Im always having trouble with this kind of spots. Are you calling or folding pre? I guess 3b i mandatory. Villain 4b def more then average reg and if this would be COvBT i would at least call.

    Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 1639885
    DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

    CO: $1295.63
    BTN: $433.84
    SB: $55.60
    Hero (BB): $429.20
    UTG: $406.00

    Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with K 9 A Q
    UTG raises to $14, 3 folds, Hero raises to $44, UTG raises to $134, Hero?
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    02-15-2012 , 05:23 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Filip1d
    Im always having trouble with this kind of spots. Are you calling or folding pre? I guess 3b i mandatory. Villain 4b def more then average reg and if this would be COvBT i would at least call.

    Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 1639885
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    CO: $1295.63
    BTN: $433.84
    SB: $55.60
    Hero (BB): $429.20
    UTG: $406.00

    Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with K 9 A Q
    UTG raises to $14, 3 folds, Hero raises to $44, UTG raises to $134, Hero?
    This is such a std fml spot

    Would rly like hear som sr's thoughts about it
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    02-15-2012 , 05:36 PM
    close spot where i 3b/fold if i am winning and 3b/get in if i am losing. (not a joke).
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    02-15-2012 , 06:01 PM
    Im wondering how many non AA,KK type hands he needs to have in his 4b range so I could call or get it in
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    02-15-2012 , 07:56 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Filip1d
    Im always having trouble with this kind of spots. Are you calling or folding pre? I guess 3b i mandatory. Villain 4b def more then average reg and if this would be COvBT i would at least call.

    Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 1639885
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    CO: $1295.63
    BTN: $433.84
    SB: $55.60
    Hero (BB): $429.20
    UTG: $406.00

    Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with K 9 A Q
    UTG raises to $14, 3 folds, Hero raises to $44, UTG raises to $134, Hero?
    How much are you 3betting especially IP. And what you mean that this guy 4bets more than avg. avg good aggro reg(haven't played 400 in a while but what I can remember it's a bit tighter)

    I would just flat pre if I don't know what to do on 4bets and if he 4bets a lot. I think against a wide 4betting range I'm just getting it in
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    02-15-2012 , 08:21 PM
    IP I'm 3b ~10%. Over 3.5k hands I got on him his 4b 6.8 what is def more than just AA and KK but not a lot. Also I'm not always 3betting AA and KK in this exact situation so maybe he have seen me flatting AA or KK and now is 4betting lighter but it was really fast 4b.
    You said you are getting it in against wide 4b range. Do you mean 5b or calling and c/f boards like 873, 662, J84?
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    02-15-2012 , 09:24 PM
      Poker Stars, $2/$4, $0.80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11893602

      SB: $1,862.26 (465.6 bb)
      Hero (BB): $1,181.92 (295.5 bb)
      UTG: $651.20 (162.8 bb)
      MP: $1,269.90 (317.5 bb)
      CO: $409.20 (102.3 bb)
      BTN: $400 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q K T K
      3 folds, BTN raises to $12, SB raises to $44.80, Hero raises to $151.20, BTN folds, SB raises to $470.40, Hero calls $319.20

      Flop: ($957.60) K 9 Q (2 players)
      SB bets $954.80, Hero calls $710.72 and is all-in




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      02-15-2012 , 09:59 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Filip1d
      IP I'm 3b ~10%. Over 3.5k hands I got on him his 4b 6.8 what is def more than just AA and KK but not a lot. Also I'm not always 3betting AA and KK in this exact situation so maybe he have seen me flatting AA or KK and now is 4betting lighter but it was really fast 4b.
      You said you are getting it in against wide 4b range. Do you mean 5b or calling and c/f boards like 873, 662, J84?
      i belive he meant 5b
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      02-15-2012 , 10:39 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by ISILDRppN
        Poker Stars, $2/$4, $0.80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11893602

        SB: $1,862.26 (465.6 bb)
        Hero (BB): $1,181.92 (295.5 bb)
        UTG: $651.20 (162.8 bb)
        MP: $1,269.90 (317.5 bb)
        CO: $409.20 (102.3 bb)
        BTN: $400 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with Q K T K
        3 folds, BTN raises to $12, SB raises to $44.80, Hero raises to $151.20, BTN folds, SB raises to $470.40, Hero calls $319.20

        Flop: ($957.60) K 9 Q (2 players)
        SB bets $954.80, Hero calls $710.72 and is all-in




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        Flop is a super hyper easy all in as you need only 29% and have top set.


        Pre I am not sure.Would vilain ever 4b without AA here? I consider his range to be AA.

        Facing AA PF analysis
        If you play optimaly and are facing AA, your opponent will never fold...
        you will shove flop about 40% of the time for an average equity of a little less of 60%.
        It means 60% of the times you loose 470 and 40% of flops you go all in and have a mean equity of 60%.

        EV=-470*.6+1189*.4*.6=-187$

        It is EV- to call the 5bet and it is not even close
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        02-15-2012 , 10:46 PM
        i wouldnt 4b if i didnt know what to do vs 5b w/ these stacks. to poster above.. could have other hands than just aa in his range given stacks since hero has more room to 4b a wider range than normal. Just depends on dynamics really
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        02-15-2012 , 11:03 PM
        I think you have to make a decision.
        Either you give vilain credit for AA almost everytime and find a fold or you have a strong read and 6bet all in PF.
        But calling the 5b hoping Vil doesn't have AA and praying to love the flop with SPR less than 1 on the flop I think it is kinda wrong. Plus you are going to make alot of mistakes on paired board and if you catch a fl draw it can be dominated and you could have 2 outs + runner runners.
        Sure I don't kno the dynamics but I do not agree with flating the 5bet.
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        02-16-2012 , 10:41 AM
        Reason i post is I feel that this cant be good.

        But still a lot of reggs do it, good and bad players and whatever. Dont feel like anyone ever fold there when he 5b's




          Poker Stars, $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11894352

          SB: $255 (25.5 bb)
          BB: $3,188.44 (318.8 bb)
          Hero (UTG): $2,384 (238.4 bb)
          MP: $2,012 (201.2 bb)
          CO: $1,000 (100 bb)
          BTN: $1,351.80 (135.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is UTG with T Q T Q
          Hero raises to $30, MP calls $30, CO folds, BTN raises to $135, 2 folds, Hero calls $105, MP raises to $555, BTN calls $420, Hero calls $420

          Flop: ($1,680) 8 J 2 (3 players)
          Hero bets $1,677




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          02-16-2012 , 12:48 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by ISILDRppN
          Reason i post is I feel that this cant be good.

          But still a lot of reggs do it, good and bad players and whatever. Dont feel like anyone ever fold there when he 5b's




            Poker Stars, $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11894352

            SB: $255 (25.5 bb)
            BB: $3,188.44 (318.8 bb)
            Hero (UTG): $2,384 (238.4 bb)
            MP: $2,012 (201.2 bb)
            CO: $1,000 (100 bb)
            BTN: $1,351.80 (135.2 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is UTG with T Q T Q
            Hero raises to $30, MP calls $30, CO folds, BTN raises to $135, 2 folds, Hero calls $105, MP raises to $555, BTN calls $420, Hero calls $420

            Flop: ($1,680) 8 J 2 (3 players)
            Hero bets $1,677




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            oddly enough if u were double suited u wouldnt have a problem with th hand right? as played im in,but i doubt you had the equity in a 3 way pot at less than 2-1, so i normally would fold to 4 bet squeeze since ur almost always aginst AA wiith a bunch of blockers imo
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