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[Wolfram]

I would pretty much never 3bet the flop with small top two and no immediate redraws with an 18-to-1 stack to pot ratio. Leak?

I just **** myself when he flats and the turn isn't a 4 or an 8.

[Doorbread]

so u never bluff 3bet, and are only raising sets + wraps? 8456?

u gonna get raped

on these textures

[Wolfram]

ya probably... just need to learn more tricks.

Speaking of, I'm not a big fan of folding boats since I come from LHE but...

Full Tilt Poker Game #29153187129: Table Exam (heads up, deep) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 06:39:59 ET - 2011/03/19
Seat 1: Wolfram ($878)
Seat 2: STELLA05 ($885)
Wolfram posts the small blind of $2
STELLA05 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wolfram [Td 7h 3s 9h]
Wolfram raises to $12
STELLA05 calls $8
*** FLOP *** [7c Jc Tc]
STELLA05 checks
Wolfram checks
*** TURN *** [7c Jc Tc] [7s]
STELLA05 checks
Wolfram bets $16
STELLA05 raises to $68
Wolfram calls $52
*** RIVER *** [7c Jc Tc 7s] [4c]
STELLA05 bets $160
Wolfram has 15 seconds left to act
Wolfram has requested TIME
Wolfram folds
Wolfram adds $2
Uncalled bet of $160 returned to STELLA05
STELLA05 mucks
STELLA05 wins the pot ($159.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $160 | Rake $0.50
Board: [7c Jc Tc 7s 4c]
Seat 1: Wolfram (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: STELLA05 (big blind) collected ($159.50), mucked

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Villain is a high stakes reg, loses a little bit. We're 3 tabling and he's active and i've caught him making big bluffs a couple of times, but not in spots like this. Mostly he's been bluffing when I'm betting strong and then checking the river when obvious draws hit or sometimes when he's check/calling flop+river and then leading close to pot on scary rivers.

[urubu111]

@hoopster, i agree w doorbread.

@wolfram, id just b/f turn. terrible odds and his line/size is usually the goods in my exp.

[MATT111]

Villain is a tight tag.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Party
SB ($475)
BB ($397)
UTG ($160)
UTG+1 ($355)
CO ($488)
Hero ($762)

Dealt to Hero 8 9 5 6

fold, UTG+1 raises to $12, fold, Hero raises to $42, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $30

FLOP ($90) 8 2 A

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $48, UTG+1 raises to $173, Hero folds

UTG+1 wins $183

[cobrastatus]

Originally Posted by MATT111

Villain is a tight tag.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Party
SB ($475)
BB ($397)
UTG ($160)
UTG+1 ($355)
CO ($488)
Hero ($762)

Dealt to Hero 8 9 5 6

fold, UTG+1 raises to $12, fold, Hero raises to $42, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $30

FLOP ($90) 8 2 A

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $48, UTG+1 raises to $173, Hero folds

UTG+1 wins $183

easiest fold ever

[chinaski101]

Originally Posted by MATT111

Villain is a tight tag.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Party
SB ($475)
BB ($397)
UTG ($160)
UTG+1 ($355)
CO ($488)
Hero ($762)

Dealt to Hero 8 9 5 6

fold, UTG+1 raises to $12, fold, Hero raises to $42, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $30

FLOP ($90) 8 2 A

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $48, UTG+1 raises to $173, Hero folds

UTG+1 wins $183

bet big/call on the flop, or check it back. i hate bet folding equity like that.

[steel108]

Villain is a good laggy reg, 30/24 and overall has a pretty high intensity. If he has been noticing, I have been playing a bit tighter than my normal game.

Is 3B fine pre with stack sizes? What do you guys like on the flop?


MP: $1,427.65 (356.9 bb)
CO: $222.30 (55.6 bb)
BTN: $363.40 (90.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,172.80 (293.2 bb)
BB: $210.80 (52.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 T 7 T
MP raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $40, BB folds, MP calls $28

Flop: ($84) 4 9 8 (2 players)
Hero ???

[Nice_2_Beat_U]

Originally Posted by steel108

Villain is a good laggy reg, 30/24 and overall has a pretty high intensity. If he has been noticing, I have been playing a bit tighter than my normal game.

Is 3B fine pre with stack sizes? What do you guys like on the flop?


MP: $1,427.65 (356.9 bb)
CO: $222.30 (55.6 bb)
BTN: $363.40 (90.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,172.80 (293.2 bb)
BB: $210.80 (52.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 T 7 T
MP raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $40, BB folds, MP calls $28

Flop: ($84) 4 9 8 (2 players)
Hero ???

I think 3betting is pretty cool beeing that deep and I think c-betting is by far teh best play (expecting to get raised <20% having so many blockers to monsterdraws)

[Roman]

bet most times, that hand could get interesting on later streets

[steel108]

The only definitive card that I bluffing off with on the turn is a 6

If we bet, how do we respond to a raise? The best argument I can make for calling is that with his intensity level, the cards that smack our hand will be the ones that he bombs away on. But most of the deck will miss us so IDK, too bad I didn't have a suit

[TGSM89]

Originally Posted by Wolfram

ya probably... just need to learn more tricks.

Speaking of, I'm not a big fan of folding boats since I come from LHE but...

Full Tilt Poker Game #29153187129: Table Exam (heads up, deep) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 06:39:59 ET - 2011/03/19
Seat 1: Wolfram ($878)
Seat 2: STELLA05 ($885)
Wolfram posts the small blind of $2
STELLA05 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wolfram [Td 7h 3s 9h]
Wolfram raises to $12
STELLA05 calls $8
*** FLOP *** [7c Jc Tc]
STELLA05 checks
Wolfram checks
*** TURN *** [7c Jc Tc] [7s]
STELLA05 checks
Wolfram bets $16
STELLA05 raises to $68
Wolfram calls $52
*** RIVER *** [7c Jc Tc 7s] [4c]
STELLA05 bets $160
Wolfram has 15 seconds left to act
Wolfram has requested TIME
Wolfram folds
Wolfram adds $2
Uncalled bet of $160 returned to STELLA05
STELLA05 mucks
STELLA05 wins the pot ($159.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $160 | Rake $0.50
Board: [7c Jc Tc 7s 4c]
Seat 1: Wolfram (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: STELLA05 (big blind) collected ($159.50), mucked

Sorry, converter won't process for some reason.

Villain is a high stakes reg, loses a little bit. We're 3 tabling and he's active and i've caught him making big bluffs a couple of times, but not in spots like this. Mostly he's been bluffing when I'm betting strong and then checking the river when obvious draws hit or sometimes when he's check/calling flop+river and then leading close to pot on scary rivers.

Originally Posted by urubu111

@hoopster, i agree w doorbread.

@wolfram, id just b/f turn. terrible odds and his line/size is usually the goods in my exp.

yeah but this guy was playing like a lunatic today....


and wolfram, your slow internet connection was tilting me so much I donked off so much cash to you :/

[Wolfram]

sorry I guess :/

which one are you?

[TGSM89]

not stella.. guess, u took like 2k off me

[Wolfram]

what did you think of my play?