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11-07-2011 , 08:21 PM

#2626

krmont22

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prob shouldnt bet if you are gonna fold, and prob shouldnt fold you have outs and position

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11-08-2011 , 07:51 AM

#2627

urubu111

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everyone saying check just because we got c/r big and now seems fold is the best play.

ya it sucks hard, but i still think cbet/fold is the best play.

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11-08-2011 , 11:15 AM

#2628

vitti

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,933

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Originally Posted by urubu111

everyone saying check just because we got c/r big and now seems fold is the best play.

ya it sucks hard, but i still think cbet/fold is the best play.

#2
thought it was a chb at first, but i prefer a cbet

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11-08-2011 , 03:53 PM

#2629

MATT111

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What hand do you need to call here ? Villain is a reg.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $6(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($640)
BB ($2,058)
UTG ($1,500)
UTG+1 ($2,410)
Hero ($1,519)
BTN ($1,577)

BB antes $1.20
UTG antes $1.20
UTG+1 antes $1.20
Hero antes $1.20
BTN antes $1.20
SB antes $1.20

Dealt to Hero ****

fold, fold, Hero raises to $18, BTN calls $18, fold, fold

FLOP ($52.20) A

Hero bets $36, BTN calls $36

TURN ($124) A

Hero checks, BTN bets $81, Hero calls $81

RIVER ($286) A

Hero bets $186, BTN raises to $636,

Last edited by MATT111; 11-08-2011 at 04:07 PM.

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11-08-2011 , 04:26 PM

#2630

krmont22

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11-08-2011 , 04:40 PM

#2631

PotatoChips

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 144

calling w/ anything less then A 8 seems pretty light to me. cant see much he bluffing w/ here and pretty much his whole range strong enough to bluff catch if he doesnt believe u.

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11-09-2011 , 06:52 AM

#2632

MATT111

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Is he even value raising A8 here?
I guess we have to call A8 just for the blockers.

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11-09-2011 , 01:52 PM

#2633

K_2

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fold

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11-10-2011 , 03:29 AM

#2634

mamafei

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 199

hey guys, im pretty confident i took the best line but just wanted to get some extra opinions of the bright minds on these boards... what do u think?

Poker Stars, $25/$50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11008642

toweliestar (BB): $25,061.65 (501.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $4,368.70 (87.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

Hero raises to $100, toweliestar calls $50

Flop: ($200) T

(2 players)
toweliestar checks, Hero bets $80, toweliestar raises to $250, Hero calls $170

Turn: ($700) 3

(2 players)
toweliestar bets $524.60, Hero calls $524.60

River: ($1,749.20) A

(2 players)
toweliestar checks, Hero checks

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11-10-2011 , 03:41 AM

#2635

PotatoChips

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shove turn

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11-10-2011 , 03:56 AM

#2636

K_2

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shove flop imo and squeeze t n r

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11-10-2011 , 04:41 AM

#2637

mamafei

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^^ u guys gotta give an explanation or a reason? i think shoving turn is not optimal fwiw but mayb if u give an explanation for your reasoning it might make more sense to me?

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11-10-2011 , 04:58 AM

#2638

Zeestein

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turn is a trivial raise

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11-10-2011 , 05:05 AM

#2639

lutschmanova

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too passiv for my taste. turn river are fairly standard imo. would bet half pot+ on flop and probably 4 bet too, but see merits in just calling as well, if he cR lots of flops. if he doesn`t, I 4bet to 650...and block a 6 and 9 if he has a straightdraw or you have him semidead with underset + many cards kill ur action

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11-10-2011 , 09:36 AM

#2640

Gary_Neville

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Lol Villain rivers gin and checks?

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11-10-2011 , 10:41 AM

#2641

urubu111

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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

Lol Villain rivers gin and checks?

ya i am wondering his check.. anyway what i know, towel is one of the best plo regs on poker stars.

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11-10-2011 , 10:56 AM

#2642

MATT111

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As far as repped ranges go, it`s a clear check in his shoes.

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11-10-2011 , 01:30 PM

#2643

K_2

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mafia why did you jc flop rs? (need some insight from you first)

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11-10-2011 , 04:31 PM

#2644

vektor

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obviously disguising the strength of his hand on a relatively dry board hoping towelie had AA and they could get it in on turn when the 5 hits, the Spindler strikes again

Last edited by vektor; 11-10-2011 at 04:37 PM.

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11-10-2011 , 06:00 PM

#2645

mamafei

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Quote:

Originally Posted by urubu111

ya i am wondering his check.. anyway what i know, towel is one of the best plo regs on poker stars.

Personally i think his check is the right play. he's oop and he has 2nd nuts... he knows its unlikely that i have a flush here so he's really just bluff catching at this point

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Originally Posted by K_2

mamafei why did you jc flop rs? (need some insight from you first)

fyp. Towelie is a good player and he doesnt step out of line very often. For me to raise the flop here just doesnt seem optimal as the only thing i see him really getting it in with are A hi-fd's, wraps and sets.

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Originally Posted by vektor

obviously disguising the strength of his hand on a relatively dry board hoping towelie had AA and they could get it in on turn when the 5 hits, the Spindler strikes again

I strongly feel that my line here is good but i just want to see how many people in this thread would disagree with me

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11-10-2011 , 06:03 PM

#2646

K_2

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mafeia you're crushing the bottom of his range and flipping with the top of his range..
thats all, still you minimized ur loss in this case fwiw, i just dont like the missed value vs lower sets, etc

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11-10-2011 , 06:20 PM

#2647

mamafei

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 199

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Originally Posted by K_2

mafeia you're crushing the bottom of his range and flipping with the top of his range..
thats all, still you minimized ur loss in this case fwiw, i just dont like the missed value vs lower sets, etc

yeah i understand but i feel that's an unlikely case and most of the time he doesnt have a set here

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11-10-2011 , 07:06 PM

#2648

K_2

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so u called the flop rs for value? if so i dont get it..if he is solid hes not betting paired turns there with a marginal hand..plus i think raising turn vs "solidness" with top set is good play, no?

..also if the board pairs on the turn how do you proceed? chk trn, b/r riv?

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11-10-2011 , 07:15 PM

#2649

Gary_Neville

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What hands are hero turning into a bluff that makes Villain's check on the river with the second nuts so good? Also what would you jam in Villain's shoes?