bet flop.

as played, i hate betting smaller. 200 is good.

edit- for mamafel's hand

^ thx for the reply.











so obviously this is a standard hand but what do u guys think about flatting his raise here? in what scenario is it better to flat oop instead of raise? remember that there is still one opponent to act and you're oop. I think CO jams here a decent amount of the time so flatting is an interesting option (b/c its possible they both have big draws and CO doesnt really need much to jam profitably).

just to be clear, if this were hu, i think raising is better in general but i dont know how to evaluate the situation with CO in the hand.

thanks

PokerStars Game #69949749607: Omaha Pot Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2011/11/03 10:49:47 EET [2011/11/03 4:49:47 ET]
Table 'Neptune II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: s1m00 ($6993 in chips)
Seat 2: Genius28 ($11096 in chips)
Seat 3: hotmark777 ($6673 in chips)
Seat 5: 1Il|1Il|1il| ($5000 in chips)
s1m00: posts small blind $25
Genius28: posts big blind $50
St1ckman: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hotmark777 [Ks 9c Kh 5s]
hotmark777: raises $100 to $150
1Il|1Il|1il|: raises $375 to $525
s1m00: folds
Genius28: folds
hotmark777: calls $375
*** FLOP *** [3d 6c 6s]
hotmark777: checks
1Il|1Il|1il|: bets $350
hotmark777: raises $856.80 to $1206.80
1Il|1Il|1il|: raises $3268.20 to $4475 and is all-in
hotmark777: folds
Uncalled bet ($3268.20) returned to 1Il|1Il|1il|
1Il|1Il|1il| collected $3536.60 from pot
1Il|1Il|1il|: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3538.60 | Rake $2
Board [3d 6c 6s]
Seat 1: s1m00 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Genius28 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: hotmark777 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: 1Il|1Il|1il| (button) collected ($3536.60)

is check call the only line here? how do u rate the way i played?

this hand REALLY depends on how good the opponent is... if opponent is very strong u played it fine

What? Check/raise/folding has got to be one of the worst ways to play it.

KK seems too strong here to be turning into a bluff. ie. raise/folding.

^^yeah sorry i meant if the opponent is strong you played it badly

if he's a good player he's going to be getting it in pretty light and his range will consist of more bluffs than if he were a weak player who would only get it in so nutted.

so adi and czi are right. sorry to confuse you there, i get brain farts from time to time

villain is 47/25/5 after like 500 hands. instapotted


PL Omaha $10(BB)
SB ($724)
BB ($1,546)
UTG ($1,027)
CO ($2,656)
Hero ($1,000)

Dealt to Hero 7 6 4 5

fold, CO raises to $35, Hero raises to $120, fold, fold, CO calls $85

FLOP ($255) T 6 7

CO bets $255

Bleh... Any reads on his postflop play? Such a sucky spot. I'm guessin he wouldn't pot the straight here. But I don't think he'd pot any bluffs here either. Don't really get what he would pot this with.

flip a coin.

i'd tend to shrug shove

I sorta wanna hero? villan seems p straightforward, seen nothing outta the ordinary.

Well that's courageous.

check back river?

seems like you're leveling yourself into trying to hero, esp when you have no reason to think he's capable of bluffshoving there

yea i hate these spots but i mean its a shove to me

fold..the bottom of his range is a set

^ wtf

K_2, no, absolutely not.

2+2=5, the only answer here is PPT.

i mean i think his value range is only 25 and aaa, and i think he'd raise those earlier in the hand(being straightforward) aa25 makes sense, but thats about all. Im scared about kjtq hands that hes turning into a bluff.

Why would he turn KQJT into a bluff? Does he expect you to bet/fold Axxx to bluff out two pair that isn't aces up? Or does he expect you to valuebet/fold as weak as queens up? I mean, you're thinking about calling with 8xxx, surely it can't be his intention to make you fold aces up.

czi, where is your avatar from?

It's wiz khalifa - black&yellow.

well yeah.. but couple posters said they'd shove, so i dont feel that bad about my shove now

I misread the hand. I PPTed a bit and I think it's a close shove, assuming most people don't pot sets/straights here but do so with more vulnerable/speculative hands that are looking for fold equity.

i guess villian could be bluffing, but i fold there cuz of the 10

Of course he isn't bluffing. He's almost always semibluffing though, and against his semibluffing range I think it's a close shove.