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05-31-2010 , 07:02 PM
feel like we need one of these; too many threads with random hands that only require 1 or 2 replies to end the topic and hands clogging up bbv/lc.

copy+paste OP from ssplo:


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Originally Posted by jd_poker
This works well in HUNL, see here.

Post all action, don't post results.

Post hands here that you are almost certain you played correctly but just need confirmation so you can get rid of that tiny little bit of doubt in your mind. Preferably these are hands that require a simple "wp", "good line", etc. kind of reply. Leave strat discussion to a minimum or it might make this thread very confusing if it does take off. Post only complete hand histories (without results). If replies seem to show that your hand really isn't as standard as you thought it to be, you could always just post a separate strat thread.

This can be hands you lost even though you think you played correctly.

Or it can be just be confirming that your line was standard regardless of results.

The point of this thread is so that you can post super simple or super standard spots that you feel don't really require its own thread. I've personally felt so stupid to post some of the hands I had slight doubts on because they were so standard that I just ignored them, leaving the doubts still bothering me for a while. I'm sure some of you have felt this way before too.

SNG, tournament and cash hands all welcomed.

go go go
Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaBalla
Alright, I'm willing to give this a shot and see if this type of thread works out.

Probably a good space for anyone who wanted to post a "standard" spot in the low contend thread. so keep those hands out of there and post them here instead.
if mods don't think we need/want this then just get rid of it.
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05-31-2010 , 07:05 PM
first little spot.

Full Tilt, $5/$10 PL Omaha Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $1,961
BB: $1,729.50

Pre-Flop: J 9 A 8 dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to $33, BB raises to $102, Hero raises to $304, BB calls $207

Flop: ($621) Q J 2 (2 Players)
BB bets $621, Hero raises to $1,552.50, BB calls $798 and is All-In

villain is a 5/10-25/50 big winning reg and we were starting 6max action. we were both playing v aggro. spewy shove?
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05-31-2010 , 07:10 PM
Yup. You made a sick donation right there. I wouldn't ship that 100bb deep let alone 170bb deep.
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05-31-2010 , 07:12 PM
Although I am a spew moneky I prefer the flatcall pfr and certainly fold the flop.
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05-31-2010 , 07:19 PM
I don't want this thread to die because I think its a good idea but 4betting pre and calling the flop are both spew in that hand imo.
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05-31-2010 , 07:38 PM
Pre would be ok if 8 or 9 was a 10. Flop just hits him too hard to stack off.
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05-31-2010 , 07:51 PM
Villain is a decent reg with a 10% 3bet. Not deep enough for anything else on flop right?

Betfair Poker, $2.50/5 Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
BB: $302
UTG: $2,175.69
UTG+1: $589.50
CO: $0
Button: $993.23
SB: $495

Dealt to UTG+1 K 5 Q K

Pre-flop:
UTG+1 raises to $17.50, (1 folds), SB raises to $57.50, (1 folds), UTG+1 raises to $177.50, SB calls $120

Flop: ($362.50) A 2 5 (4 Players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $360, SB calls $317.50, SB all-in, returns $42.50
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05-31-2010 , 08:02 PM
1 psb, nothing else to do.
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05-31-2010 , 08:45 PM
chucks hand is fine

I think pre in your hand is fine, post isn't
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05-31-2010 , 09:49 PM
standard enough turn b/c right? my flop/turn bet sizing is a lil small, not sure why i was doing that.

Full Tilt, $5/$10 PL Omaha Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $1,424.50
BTN: $3,524.50

Pre-Flop: 8 K K 9 dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN raises to $30, Hero raises to $90, BTN calls $60

Flop: ($180) 8 2 T (2 Players)
Hero bets $110, BTN calls $110

Turn: ($400) 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets $265, BTN raises to $1,195, Hero raises to $1,224.50 and is All-In, BTN calls $29.50
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06-01-2010 , 12:24 AM
your up against two pair pretty much always here adiprene
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06-01-2010 , 04:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adiprene1
standard enough turn b/c right? my flop/turn bet sizing is a lil small, not sure why i was doing that.

Full Tilt, $5/$10 PL Omaha Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $1,424.50
BTN: $3,524.50

Pre-Flop: 8 K K 9 dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN raises to $30, Hero raises to $90, BTN calls $60

Flop: ($180) 8 2 T (2 Players)
Hero bets $110, BTN calls $110

Turn: ($400) 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets $265, BTN raises to $1,195, Hero raises to $1,224.50 and is All-In, BTN calls $29.50
Seems like a turn fold against a lot of people? But I don't play HU either.
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06-01-2010 , 04:28 AM
chuck hand = std.
adiprene hand = turn fold vs most i think.
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06-01-2010 , 04:37 AM
Board:
Button: $7,467
SB: $1,847.01
BB: $2,173
UTG: $4,710
CO: $2,314

Dealt to SB 7 T J 9

Pre-flop:
UTG raises to $70, CO calls $70, Button calls $70, SB raises to $360, (3 folds), Button calls $300

Flop: ($900) 3 3 J (2 Players)
SB bets $

how much? What are you doing if he raises?
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06-01-2010 , 04:39 AM
Board:
Button: $5,135
SB: $2,000
BB: $1,000
CO: $6,380

Dealt to SB 8 Q T Q

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), SB raises to $50, BB raises to $160, SB raises to $470, BB raises to $820, SB calls $470

Do you like it against an aggro opponent? Or do you just call and use your position?
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06-01-2010 , 04:55 AM
FC,

Hand 1 - I bet/fold vs most. Probably around $600.

Hand 2 - You're SB vs the BB? How can you "call and use your position" when you're OOP? With QQT8ss here I prefer calling to 4betting, though it depends *how* aggro your opponent is. If he's routinely 3betting/getting it in with stuff like J863ds or whatever then your line is much better. Also, a tonne of people will polarize their ranges to *not* 3bet bad aces or kings and only 3bet the better end of those ranges + more rundown type hands, to which you do much better against.
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06-01-2010 , 08:05 AM
i knew there was a reason 5 of my last 7 sessions were losing lol.

fc- hand1- b/f
hand2- 470, raise 820, call 470....what? anyway i think it's fine vs aggro players. villain is only 1k deep, right? why 820 instead of stack i wonder...
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06-01-2010 , 08:28 AM
sure why not. I am pretty sure this is ok but maybe i am out of line.

Live game. €2/€5 live €10 straddle.

UTG is a fish, if he is winning 500 he is rock tight but if he is losing 500 he will play like a monkey and bluff like its the new black. He is after gettign stacked again, is chasing and has just reloaded for €500 at the start of this hand. He is prolly stuck €2500 or so.

Btn - is a loosey goosey player with loads of money. He will almost always give action for any amount up to €500 or so and once he opens or 3 bets he will rarely fold to another raise. That said he is competent post flop. He is a significant winner in the game in the past 12 months but is prolly losing lots in the past 4 months. In general though he is too loose. He was winning in the game but has now gone behind. He recently reloaded for 1k and is playing €965.

I am in the straddle and cover both players. UTG limps for €10, couple of callers and the Btn pots to €60, I call €60 with KKJ4 ds with hearts and clubs, UTG limp raises to €240. Btn dwells momentarily, and says 'go on il give you action' before announcing raise to 820 or w/e.

I stick it in the middle. My rationale (thanks Wazz, I added that final e just for you) is that A) I am ahead of Btn and I am investing 465 vs his 465 for a side pot. B) UTG may well have AA alot of the time but when he is this tilted he certainly has KQJ10 to J1098 hands in his range.

So I expect to be significantly ahead in the side pot and have significant/decent equity in the main pot.

Good? Bad? OK? Other?
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06-01-2010 , 12:09 PM
FC.

Hand 1: I don't squeeze pre-flop and want to hear why others like it. I don't. Flop is pretty much a b/f.

Hand 2: If you decided to 4bet this hand pre, just get it in pre. He will have like 180 left in an 1800 pot. It really doesn't matter if you flat and shove every flop or get it in pre. Once he 5bets with a 1k stack, you can't fold at any time and neither can he. If he is terribad and could maybe fold the flop, flat, I guess.
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06-01-2010 , 12:22 PM
my question was for the 2. hand if you like the 4bet or do you just call his 3bet?

i am only 50% against a 20% 3betting range
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06-01-2010 , 01:14 PM
BCB,

Just did some math on that because its quite interesting. You have ~ 23% for mainpot, and about 60% for the sidepot with 2 dead aces.

You investing about another 940 in the whole pot and you'll get back 23%x1500 + 60%x100= €945 return.

That appears breakeven, and I assumed the shorter player had AAxx almost always, which is mostly true given my experience with him.

Add in the small likelyhood that he doesnt have AAxx since he is chasing , then this becomes a much more profitable play, so I'd be shipping all day.
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06-01-2010 , 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doorbread
Pre would be ok if 8 or 9 was a 10. Flop just hits him too hard to stack off.
LOL, cmon man, the 4bet is fine in an aggressive match, the flop is another story tho
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06-02-2010 , 05:18 PM
PL Omaha $10(BB)
Hero ($1,013)
BB ($941)
UTG ($870)
UTG+1 ($1,258)
CO ($3,126)
BTN ($1,048)

Dealt to Hero A Q K Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $30, Hero raises to $100, fold, BTN calls $70

FLOP ($210) T K 9

Hero bets $140, BTN raises to $520, Hero raises to $913 (AI), BTN calls $393

Standard? Villain is a reg, opens 60% from the button.
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06-02-2010 , 08:27 PM
Replay: Looks like a fold

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: KT9
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AcQcKsQh30.40% 173,10218,616
KT**,JQ**,KK**,TT**,99**,Ad*d**,KdQd**,KdJd** & 70%69.60% 408,28218,616
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06-02-2010 , 09:20 PM
no history with villain, think hes a reg

Full Tilt Poker, $2/4 Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
UTG: $750.60
UTG+1: $200
CO: $1,198
Button: $400
SB: $627.10
BB: $446.30

Dealt to BB K 5 7 K

Pre-flop:
(3 folds), Button raises to $12, (1 folds), BB calls $8

Flop: ($26) Q 5 Q (2 Players)
BB checks, Button bets $20, BB calls $20

Turn: ($66) 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Button bets $52, BB calls $52

River: ($170) A (2 Players)
BB checks, Button bets $170, (1 folds), Button returns $170

Results:
Button wins $167
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