***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** - Page 928 - Small Stakes Pot Limit Omaha

my hud stopped working on zoom tables mid session, so after i reinstalled and loaded up a .2/.5 zoom table to see if it was working. anyway i get AA in the bb and get all in, $10.15 in the pot, they raked 40c.. wtf... thats 8bb and almost 4%.

ive never played below .5/1 so just never realised how ridic it was. thought they had capped the rake at smaller stakes when they raised it everywhere else.

the reinstall works for anyone else on pt4 who gets that problem btw

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03-28-2017 , 08:43 PM

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lucaspawpaw16

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4% rake lol go play live

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03-28-2017 , 09:11 PM

#23179

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

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10% up to 5 or 6 is SOP in the USA now

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03-28-2017 , 09:57 PM

#23180

ChicagoJoey

Papi

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Sad times for the great game of PLO forum

The rake in these live private games is ****ing outrageous

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03-30-2017 , 10:07 AM

#23181

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

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I've literally never played in one of these mythical live private clubs with really high rake. I hear alot of stories about Houston/Austin but I just can't see how it can be beatable when they are dropping that much.

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03-30-2017 , 06:03 PM

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lvanhoe

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,383

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Originally Posted by 11t

Being as far from a liveplayer as one can be, I've played in a private 2/5/mostly 10 game once where the rake was 10% with a 20 euro cap. I knew I'd only be playing there once so afterwards I asked the host how much they made in rake. To my surprise he actually answered truthfully: about 3 to 5k when the table runs for 10 hours.

tldr: acquire a network of wealthy people and host a pokergame

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03-30-2017 , 11:21 PM

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jeanchris

adept

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 745

that's nothing, I often play private game 3-5% rake up to 200 and as long as the game is good (wich will always be with the rake being so high, no whaleS = no game) and they are more then beatable.

You guys get mad at the rake, I get mad/want to shoot myself playing with 7 nits in Vegas rake-almost-free.

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04-01-2017 , 04:01 AM

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11t

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20 is beatable in a super soft game, taking uncapped off the table is just too much imo.

Man on the subject of live play in plo, I know we've all seen the sick graphs over many many 10s of 1000s of hands of run good/bad but witnessing it live where bad players can go on these slow motion heaters that last years is just jaw dropping and incredible.

How the hell did I ever get involved in this 4 card monkey game.

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04-03-2017 , 03:19 AM

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phunkphish

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,902

Bluff with the best hand; get called by worse.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

NL Holdem $20(BB)
UTG ($2595.93)
HJ ($2066.36)
CO ($2171.46)
HERO ($2702.37)
SB ($2331)
BB ($2387.64)

Dealt to Hero K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $61.41 (Rem. Stack: 2640.96), SB Folds, BB Calls $41.41 (Rem. Stack: 2326.23)

Flop ($132.82) T

BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($132.82) T

BB Bets $70.36 (Rem. Stack: 2255.87), HERO Calls $70.36 (Rem. Stack: 2570.60)

River ($273.54) T

BB Bets $200 (Rem. Stack: 2055.87), HERO Raises To $691.71 (Rem. Stack: 1878.89), BB Calls $491.71 (Rem. Stack: 1564.16)

HERO wins $1652.96
(Villain had 6

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04-03-2017 , 04:24 PM

#23186

cicakman

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Originally Posted by 11t

I'm part of one that is 5/5 with 10-15 optional utg straddle. 500-2k and we only do 15 max rake

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04-03-2017 , 05:08 PM

#23187

11t

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Originally Posted by cicakman

I'm part of one that is 5/5 with 10-15 optional utg straddle. 500-2k and we only do 15 max rake

That's not that bad if they are giving free food/drinks etc... and the games are really really good.

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04-03-2017 , 05:27 PM

#23188

cicakman

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Yea dinner, snacks/drinks and blasters

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04-04-2017 , 12:30 PM

#23189

ChicagoJoey

Papi

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15,464

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Originally Posted by 11t

I've been hearing about how soft these games are forever and always thought the same thing but after trying them out

lol

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Originally Posted by 11t

I think that is what makes PLO such a great game

You can run incredibly well in your massive spots over a couple thousand hand sample and not be on the other side of any.

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04-04-2017 , 12:31 PM

#23190

ChicagoJoey

Papi

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Has the popularity of PLO increased where most of you guys play at online or live?? It seems like it's bigger in private games but I'm not sure for casinos.

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04-04-2017 , 12:49 PM

#23191

11t

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Plo is way more popular for medium to HS games in the Midwest and South. There's just too many grinders above 2/5 that make it impossible for the really big whales to book a win.

For online, I noticed a huge drop off in action when 2x when bovada "upgraded" their software and then again when they moved to ignition at 2/4 and 3/6.

There are alot of underground online home games at 5T+ but you gotta know the right people. I hate having that much credit out though.

Last edited by 11t; 04-04-2017 at 12:57 PM.

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04-06-2017 , 02:53 PM

#23192

steel108

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7,217

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

Sad times for the great game of PLO forum

The rake in these live private games is ****ing outrageous

The advertised rake is nothing compared to what is actually is taken. The dealers are very good a palming chips in the bigger home games.

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04-06-2017 , 02:56 PM

#23193

jeanchris

adept

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 745

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Originally Posted by steel108

The advertised rake is nothing compared to what is actually is taken. The dealers are very good a palming chips in the bigger home games.

^^ true that. And they usually know who to target... they have a good idea who's paying attention or not at what they are taking.

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04-06-2017 , 04:07 PM

#23194

JoKon

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 859

anybody knows if plo 6max live games run anywhere in the world ?

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04-06-2017 , 06:23 PM

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BigAisaOK

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Originally Posted by JoKon

anybody knows if plo 6max live games run anywhere in the world ?

Some did when I used to live in Sydney for a bit. Tough to get in to tho and don't run often.

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04-06-2017 , 08:28 PM

#23196

11t

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Most live players freak the **** out when it gets to 8 handed so I wouldn't be too optimistic.

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04-06-2017 , 10:20 PM

#23197

SolarAU

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My regular game is a 6max 5/10/20 game in Sydney, it's pretty good but sometimes hard to get players.

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04-10-2017 , 04:35 AM

#23198

Roy

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

Has the popularity of PLO increased where most of you guys play at online or live?? It seems like it's bigger in private games but I'm not sure for casinos.

I play in a private game in Brisbane and almost everyone only wants to play PLO now for the high stakes games.

Rake is high but not ludicrous ($15 cap at 10/20+) and everything is provided.

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04-10-2017 , 07:48 AM

#23199

bombonca

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,423

deff plo gaining live popularity. In my city its now 50/50 live plo and nlhe, mainly 2/5 games.

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04-11-2017 , 04:21 AM

#23200

AveeMaria

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,714

Anyone playing on the home game type apps that are currently doing the rounds? They've had a fairly significant impact on live 5/5+ games in Melbourne and Sydney. Yet to hear about a major debacle but I'm sure one can be expected eventually.

Don't usually reference HDB but there's an article on there about them and their gaining popularity in China.

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