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I just got prohibited sit at a private PLO game by a mtt nlh reg who apparently knows me . ***** idiot .
This **** is in the same category as using seat script.

Tiltometer 8.7/10

Nice brag

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01-24-2015 , 06:15 AM

#20827

alexo18

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Nice brag

Not a brag at all

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01-24-2015 , 06:56 AM

#20828

wazz

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Originally Posted by DaFooFighter

New poker reality show "Full House". Here you can watch the trailer:

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01-24-2015 , 11:11 AM

#20829

MATT111

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Originally Posted by DaFooFighter

New poker reality show "Full House". Here you can watch the trailer:

This is gonna be painful to watch.

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01-24-2015 , 01:24 PM

#20830

ChuckBass

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Looks like they got an accurate representation of the poker playing demographic.

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01-24-2015 , 02:03 PM

#20831

kendricklamar

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Full Tilt - $10 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $1,628.10
SB: $1,207.40

SB posts SB $5.00, Hero posts BB $10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $15.00) Hero has T

SB raises to $30.00, Hero raises to $90.00, SB raises to $270.00, Hero calls $180.00

Flop: ($540.00, 2 players) T

Hero checks, SB bets $200.00, Hero raises to $1,140.00, SB calls $737.40 and is all-in

Turn: ($2,414.80, 2 players) A

River: ($2,414.80, 2 players) 8

Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: ($2,414.80, 2 players) 2

River #2: ($2,414.80, 2 players) A

Hero shows T

(Flush, Ace High)
Board #1 (Pre 38%, Flop 90%, Turn 3%)
(Three of a Kind, Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 38%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)

SB shows Q

(Full House, Aces full of Tens)
Board #1 (Pre 62%, Flop 10%, Turn 98%)
(Full House, Aces full of Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 62%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)

SB wins $1,207.15
SB wins $1,207.15

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01-24-2015 , 02:32 PM

#20832

yrmom

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Originally Posted by wazz

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I didn't even watch the trailer yet, but no matter how atrocious the show may be, it's good for poker. Like Dan Bilzerian

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01-24-2015 , 09:04 PM

#20833

SWAGucci

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Originally Posted by JoeSham

Where did you find about the $5k? I read the chat transcript in NVG thread, but it doesnt say anything about how they resolved it in the end. Just that joiso felt he should not return money back by equity.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1719

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01-24-2015 , 10:48 PM

#20834

wazz

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Originally Posted by yrmom

Dan Bilzerian

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01-24-2015 , 11:00 PM

#20835

Kirbynator

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from the video: 640 000 people consider themselves professional poker players?

there is no way that can be close to reality.

(and yes I mean that not that many consider themselves pros, not just are or arent pros)

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01-24-2015 , 11:03 PM

#20836

yrmom

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My guess would be in the low 4 digits worldwide.

Anyone can miss 2 orders of magnitude, no biggie

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01-25-2015 , 12:09 AM

#20837

wazz

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Yeah I always figured it to be 1-2k actually making their sole living from playing poker, sure there's a few thousand on top who make money from poker but lose after their lifestyle, or make money playing part-time and have some other source of income or whatever, and then thousands of times that many combined who have gone on a hot run and call themselves pro or whatever

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01-25-2015 , 03:56 PM

#20838

crashwhips

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Originally Posted by DaFooFighter

New poker reality show "Full House". Here you can watch the trailer:

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Originally Posted by wazz

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I can't imagine any of the cast are any good at poker, and I'm sure there will be lots of cringe-worthy moments in it, but I think it could be hilarious and awesome in a trainwreck, "Jersey-Shore" type way.

I very much enjoyed 2m2mm, but I think this show has a lot more potential to be popular and find some mainstream appeal than that poker reality show did.

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01-25-2015 , 04:00 PM

#20839

crashwhips

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Originally Posted by wazz

1k seems way too low to me. Think of all the rakeback pros, Russian and Chinese grinders, live-pros in various locales, etc. There's close to a 1,000 SNE's on pokerstars per year, aren't there?

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01-25-2015 , 04:12 PM

#20840

yrmom

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Like I said, a low 4 digit number.

Having looked at the trailer, it looks to me like "jersey shore idiots play poker". Kinda follows the Bilzerian narrative that's getting built up.

Once you get past the initial contempt for these people, you can appreciate how great it is for poker. The more of this demographic joins in, the better for the poker economy.

I'd like to know whose ass he pulled that 640k figure though

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01-25-2015 , 05:49 PM

#20841

locomi

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Originally Posted by crashwhips

There's close to a 1,000 SNE's on pokerstars per year, aren't there?

442 last year

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01-25-2015 , 06:07 PM

#20842

Clayton

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Originally Posted by DaFooFighter

New poker reality show "Full House". Here you can watch the trailer:

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01-25-2015 , 07:43 PM

#20843

BigAisaOK

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Crashwhips is right, Wazz wrong. Loads of short stacking eastern euro grinders etc on the live scene, I think including mtt'ers and stuff has to be more than 1k online alone.

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01-25-2015 , 08:16 PM

#20844

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by crashwhips

1k seems way too low to me. Think of all the rakeback pros, Russian and Chinese grinders, live-pros in various locales, etc. There's close to a 1,000 SNE's on pokerstars per year, aren't there?

Yeah. I think there are a ton of rb grinders/small stakes live "pros" who are in no way crushing anything or making huge money, but that's their sole source of income. I'd comfortably take the over on 2500 ppl.

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01-25-2015 , 09:07 PM

#20845

rubenrtv

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

i think you might even have over 2500 people in the WSOP ME that consider themselves professionals

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01-26-2015 , 05:22 AM

#20846

Jabonator

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My random guess would be around 10k professionals.

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01-26-2015 , 06:43 AM

#20847

wazz

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People who consider themselves professionals =/= professionals

I'd imagine at least 10% of SNE players and general high volume players are actually either losing money before rakeback or not making enough to survive and are lucky not to be broke; a lot of people have other incomes as well.

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01-26-2015 , 07:23 AM

#20848

joppi

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Originally Posted by wazz

Imo the definition for poker pro is that you make most of your income from poker.

Many lawyers and truck drivers have other incomes and they still are lawyers and truck drivers.

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01-26-2015 , 07:27 AM

#20849

lvanhoe

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My random guess would be somewhere between 5k and 10k professional pokerplayers in the world, closer to 5k than 10k. Don't forget there are a lot of people from third world countries that are 'pro' which earns them enough to be ballers in their own countries.

Then there's also livepro's.