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10-15-2010 , 08:33 AM
losing 17 buy ins and then winning it back the same day fells almost as good as winning .
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10-15-2010 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fairplayJAY
losing 17 buy ins and then winning it back the same day fells almost as good as winning .
It feels much better....
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10-15-2010 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Scar18
of course its frustrating and annoying, and obv reasonable to post the graph. my point is more about the severity of the "run bad" overall being significantly less in this situation than if the graph was inverted and we were -28k or watever with expected +2k.

basically if everytime i ran 25bi below in small samples i won money.. id be very happy
So hopefully I'm just stating the obvious here, but no way the guy ran 25bi below EV.

Basically, for your EV to be $25k over 7000 hands at 5/10 PLO, you need to have a winrate of about 36bb/100. This is highly unlikely, unless he is Patrick Antonius or at least Finnish.

A much more likely winrate for a 5/10 winner is 3.6bb/100, which would have him at $2500 over 7000 hands. He won $1900, so he ran about $600 or about 1bb/100 under EV. Compared to the other beats posted in this forum, this is lolgtfo.

Reason #123458956 why EV graphs are stupid. Nothing as stupid as getting upset over an imaginary cold run.
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10-15-2010 , 01:09 PM
so if he lost 22.5k in the 7k hands instead of winning 1900$ and should have won at his wr of 2500$ over 7k hands whats his ev there lol... only then is he 25k below ev?
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10-15-2010 , 01:52 PM
What he's saying is he had to run good to get into situations where he should win 25k in 7k hands. This is true but that's not how people think about it when they're running 25k below EV.
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10-15-2010 , 02:01 PM
a graph like this would hold more meaning
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10-15-2010 , 02:51 PM
i had the sickest session ever 2tabling vs a terrible guy at plo400 hu. idk if he is a reg or not, all i know is he sucks a lot. and he ran HOT. very HOT. honeslty, i play poker almost everyday for 4years, and i never ever saw something close to that. not just all bad beats and losing every ****** race, but everytime i 6bet AAxx 200bbs + deep, the idiot floped 2pairs when we saw the flop w/ already 400bbs in the middle.... serious, in 5minutes he won vs my aces on 6bet pot 3TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ya he was an agroo monkey and i pwned his soul w/ some tricky size bet to induce. but what can i do if poker gods don't agree w/ me?


soooooo sickkk. 18bi ai ev. all hands 2/4, should win 3k, lose 4k. lol. sweet...ty ****** god.

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10-15-2010 , 03:01 PM
i run hot at HS plo
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10-15-2010 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JMa
So hopefully I'm just stating the obvious here, but no way the guy ran 25bi below EV.

Basically, for your EV to be $25k over 7000 hands at 5/10 PLO, you need to have a winrate of about 36bb/100. This is highly unlikely, unless he is Patrick Antonius or at least Finnish.

A much more likely winrate for a 5/10 winner is 3.6bb/100, which would have him at $2500 over 7000 hands. He won $1900, so he ran about $600 or about 1bb/100 under EV. Compared to the other beats posted in this forum, this is lolgtfo.

Reason #123458956 why EV graphs are stupid. Nothing as stupid as getting upset over an imaginary cold run.
Not bragging or anything, but my winrate over 50k hands at 5/10 is bb/100 21.8 (obviously not sustainable) and at 3/6 over 127k hadnds is 8.81. I know its a small sample but i would play nl holdem again if it was anywhere below 3 bb/100. The variance is to sick so the winrate has to justify all the frustrations...

I know it seems lame to complain about a session that u actually won. But u must know how frustrating it is to have huge equity every time and loose every allin pot with 70 80% equity at plo witch is not really common..
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10-15-2010 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scar18
of course its frustrating and annoying, and obv reasonable to post the graph. my point is more about the severity of the "run bad" overall being significantly less in this situation than if the graph was inverted and we were -28k or watever with expected +2k.

basically if everytime i ran 25bi below in small samples i won money.. id be very happy
Im pretty sure u wouldnt. Its really anoying and the worst thing about it is that u lose a little of the drive to play and that ruins everything.
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10-15-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by G3N371X
i run hot at HS plo
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10-15-2010 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DPred123
die
srsly you hotrunning *******s need to go get your own thread on pocketfives or something
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10-15-2010 , 04:52 PM
all from 25/50-100/200 cap or shallow

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10-15-2010 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by G3N371X
all from 25/50-100/200 cap or shallow

lol dude... i was expecting 500k winnings in 1month or something like that. you win 40k and you say you run hot at high stakes?
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10-15-2010 , 06:35 PM
its only 2800 hands. seems pretty hot to me
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10-15-2010 , 06:40 PM
50k at 25/50+ != running hot...
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10-15-2010 , 06:51 PM
meh its actually 1k hands of other random stuff i forgot to filter out

its actually realistically 1800 hands at 25/50-100/200

but u all are bitching about running below EV so i figured i would show that you can run good!
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10-15-2010 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by urubu111
i had the sickest session ever 2tabling vs a terrible guy at plo400 hu. idk if he is a reg or not, all i know is he sucks a lot. and he ran HOT. very HOT. honeslty, i play poker almost everyday for 4years, and i never ever saw something close to that. not just all bad beats and losing every ****** race, but everytime i 6bet AAxx 200bbs + deep, the idiot floped 2pairs when we saw the flop w/ already 400bbs in the middle.... serious, in 5minutes he won vs my aces on 6bet pot 3TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ya he was an agroo monkey and i pwned his soul w/ some tricky size bet to induce. but what can i do if poker gods don't agree w/ me?


soooooo sickkk. 18bi ai ev. all hands 2/4, should win 3k, lose 4k. lol. sweet...ty ****** god.

good for u that u didnt stop at hand 1000
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10-16-2010 , 12:45 PM
Lol. That German, that stole MBYVPs SN on Party is beyond ridiculous. He ratholes, but today I witnessed him reloading to full 3-handed just to play his BT than sit out.

Last edited by MATT111; 10-16-2010 at 12:51 PM.
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10-16-2010 , 01:45 PM
germany must be a hell of a place
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10-17-2010 , 04:05 AM
Mehh

Poker Stars $10/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $4 Ante - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BB): $4596.00
BTN/SB: $10478.50

Pre Flop: ($38.00) Hero is BB with 8 7 7 9
BTN/SB raises to $60, Hero raises to $180, BTN/SB calls $120

Flop: ($368.00) J T 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $240, BTN/SB raises to $780, Hero raises to $1680, BTN/SB raises to $5407.50, Hero calls $2732 all in

Turn: ($9192.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($9192.00) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $9192.00
Hero shows 8 7 7 9 (a full house, Sevens full of Tens)
BTN/SB shows J J 8 8 (a full house, Jacks full of Tens)
BTN/SB wins $9191.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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10-17-2010 , 04:26 AM
tayballer: i hope you die of cancer
tayballer: and i hope your parents die too
tayballer: slowly
DonkPredator: thx bro
tayballer: of cancer
tayballer: veeery slowly
DonkPredator: ty
tayballer: thank god
tayballer: for the cancer that youre getting



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10-17-2010 , 04:38 AM
lol
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10-17-2010 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DPred123
tayballer: i hope you die of cancer
tayballer: and i hope your parents die too
tayballer: slowly
DonkPredator: thx bro
tayballer: of cancer
tayballer: veeery slowly
DonkPredator: ty
tayballer: thank god
tayballer: for the cancer that youre getting



context please this is hilarious.
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10-18-2010 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DPred123
tayballer: i hope you die of cancer
tayballer: and i hope your parents die too
tayballer: slowly
DonkPredator: thx bro
tayballer: of cancer
tayballer: veeery slowly
DonkPredator: ty
tayballer: thank god
tayballer: for the cancer that youre getting



hahahahahaha

your chat obv shows you won a lot... do you mind say how much you won vs him? btw you won my $$$, because i am 8bi down at 2/4 vs him over 2k hands.

ps: str8 + fd + boat redraw was a sick hand. pretty sick he had top set blockers etc. we know the turn was another card if he had AKQcc
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