***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread***
05-20-2017
, 12:20 PM
Here are the facts of what was actually said:
Clearly just trolling banter between regs who have competed against each other for many years and thousands of hands. I think based on posting the actual chat log that everyone can see just how pathetic his posts are and that he certainly wasn't 100% accurate with his portrayal of events. Interactions like this happen hundreds of times per day between players.
Thanks, Philippe.
In regards to making that post in kazor's thread that was 100% the right thing do, I should however apologize for not having made it a few years ago. Kazor has actually logged on to 2p2 a few times since I made that post so he clearly knows it exists and he has not offered a rebuttal or even addressed it in any manner. I'll just go ahead and assume that he wont respond and will simply stop payment for his ad which will cause it will be removed from the coach listings subforum sometime soon.
validand notinuse
tofurocks, I'm not complaining about zoom being too tough for me personally, but for a lot of lowerstakes regs who certainly have a much lower edge on each other than the bb/100 they are paying in rake, it is absolutely the worst game format that they can be playing. I have already done the math and feel that pointing it out so players who want to move up in stakes and actually make some solid money playing the game actually have that chance. Honestly though what could be more fun than PLO which plays almost as tight as NLH? Btw, Mig isn't actually a fun player, you are quite possibly the least informed poster in either the SSPLO or HSPLO subforums, yet you speak with highest conviction out of almost everyone. Please stop.
For anyone that I didn't address you are either on my ignore list or said nothing of value which actually needs to be addressed, hopefully this clears everything up.
Clearly just trolling banter between regs who have competed against each other for many years and thousands of hands. I think based on posting the actual chat log that everyone can see just how pathetic his posts are and that he certainly wasn't 100% accurate with his portrayal of events. Interactions like this happen hundreds of times per day between players.
Thanks, Philippe.
In regards to making that post in kazor's thread that was 100% the right thing do, I should however apologize for not having made it a few years ago. Kazor has actually logged on to 2p2 a few times since I made that post so he clearly knows it exists and he has not offered a rebuttal or even addressed it in any manner. I'll just go ahead and assume that he wont respond and will simply stop payment for his ad which will cause it will be removed from the coach listings subforum sometime soon.
validand notinuse
tofurocks, I'm not complaining about zoom being too tough for me personally, but for a lot of lowerstakes regs who certainly have a much lower edge on each other than the bb/100 they are paying in rake, it is absolutely the worst game format that they can be playing. I have already done the math and feel that pointing it out so players who want to move up in stakes and actually make some solid money playing the game actually have that chance. Honestly though what could be more fun than PLO which plays almost as tight as NLH? Btw, Mig isn't actually a fun player, you are quite possibly the least informed poster in either the SSPLO or HSPLO subforums, yet you speak with highest conviction out of almost everyone. Please stop.
For anyone that I didn't address you are either on my ignore list or said nothing of value which actually needs to be addressed, hopefully this clears everything up.
05-20-2017
, 01:05 PM
05-20-2017
, 04:33 PM
You are blowing this way out of proportion. Sorry, but when you play poker hands against other sentient beings, having those hands or your overall play subjectively analyzed in a negative light should not be a new nor unexpected experience for you, particularly given your extensive history playing the game. As the saying goes... "It's all in the game." I think you would get a lot out of reading this article: https://theundefeated.com/features/l...nd-trash-talk/ At no point did I attack you in a personal manner, my trash talk was limited to comments about your prowess as a poker player and I didn't take it beyond the tables. I wouldn't have thought anything of it until your made your original post. You could have simply left it at the tables as well, but you chose to take it with you and have it affect your non-poker-playing life, that's on you, not me. Have a nice day.
05-20-2017
, 05:31 PM
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You are blowing this way out of proportion. Sorry, but when you play poker hands against other sentient beings, having those hands or your overall play subjectively analyzed in a negative light should not be a new nor unexpected experience for you, particularly given your extensive history playing the game. As the saying goes... "It's all in the game." I think you would get a lot out of reading this article: https://theundefeated.com/features/l...nd-trash-talk/ At no point did I attack you in a personal manner, my trash talk was limited to comments about your prowess as a poker player and I didn't take it beyond the tables. I wouldn't have thought anything of it until your made your original post. You could have simply left it at the tables as well, but you chose to take it with you and have it affect your non-poker-playing life, that's on you, not me. Have a nice day.
You are blowing this way out of proportion. Sorry, but when you play poker hands against other sentient beings, having those hands or your overall play subjectively analyzed in a negative light should not be a new nor unexpected experience for you, particularly given your extensive history playing the game. As the saying goes... "It's all in the game." I think you would get a lot out of reading this article: https://theundefeated.com/features/l...nd-trash-talk/ At no point did I attack you in a personal manner, my trash talk was limited to comments about your prowess as a poker player and I didn't take it beyond the tables. I wouldn't have thought anything of it until your made your original post. You could have simply left it at the tables as well, but you chose to take it with you and have it affect your non-poker-playing life, that's on you, not me. Have a nice day.
05-20-2017
, 07:49 PM
05-20-2017
, 11:06 PM
Quick, better post graphs from the last 4 years to gauge a players current ability I had spent the last ~16 years of my life poorly managing a genetic autoimmune disorder which had a heavy negative influence on not only on my day-to-day well being, but my ability to play poker any where near a reasonable level. From what I can remember of people who posted publicly about it only 4 other MS+ PLO players (lefty, wazz, adiprene1, ugotabanana) at any point in time have ever competed while dealing with such difficulties. 3 of which are no longer playing online afaik, and 1 who plays very sporadically and quite often only 1 tables. Needless to say I cut the bull**** and finally started getting my health in order and have noticed a dramatic improvement in my ability to function in all areas of life. I only have an idea of what my Russian PTR looks like, but at my peak for the last 3 months was up > 200 buyins at PLO in ~140K hands across all sites/networks/apps while being significantly below expectation in what I will describe as "very deep stacked" games, unless you think playing > $10K pots at 5/10 online on a regular basis is common place. AlexKP I have nothing against you, but you are one of the last people who should say anything about graphs, not that I even think your HSDB page is representative of what your level of play is. 
I had spent the last ~16 years of my life poorly managing a genetic autoimmune disorder which had a heavy negative influence on not only on my day-to-day well being, but my ability to play poker any where near a reasonable level. From what I can remember of people who posted publicly about it only 4 other MS+ PLO players (lefty, wazz, adiprene1, ugotabanana) at any point in time have ever competed while dealing with such difficulties. 3 of which are no longer playing online afaik, and 1 who plays very sporadically and quite often only 1 tables. Needless to say I cut the bull**** and finally started getting my health in order and have noticed a dramatic improvement in my ability to function in all areas of life. I only have an idea of what my Russian PTR looks like, but at my peak for the last 3 months was up > 200 buyins at PLO in ~140K hands across all sites/networks/apps while being significantly below expectation in what I will describe as "very deep stacked" games, unless you think playing > $10K pots at 5/10 online on a regular basis is common place. AlexKP I have nothing against you, but you are one of the last people who should say anything about graphs, not that I even think your HSDB page is representative of what your level of play is.
05-21-2017
, 03:37 AM