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11-09-2011, 08:57 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
+1 on getting a job and everything in the lee jones post.
If your mother is in financial distress that is top of the list without a doubt, and working part time is +ev regardless. If you have no 'real life' debt then the situation is ok once you get a job. There is alot of bad advice ITT imo but won't pick it out.
Where would you play poker anyway don't you live in vegas and so are limited to merge online? **** that.
As for the like 'anti social' stuff.. go to the gym blablabla is all good, but on top of that communicate to yourself internally and get some fire/energy to motivate. Meditate and learn, read, Lock your soul up and take control. And the suicide ****, don't be a ****ing moron man, at the end of the day, life is amazing, even the ****tiest aspects of life, are still amazing simply because it's happening, wtf right? that ****ing chair, is being a chair, over there, OMFG!!! It could be worse and it could be better, ALWAYS. The sun alone is worth living for. I mean its good to not give a **** about dieng as this is a show of will, but not wanting to live because of your situation is just weak emo bullcrap and need to get some balls. You should be happy even living homeless because you'd ****ing own that **** right? There is so much in the world, and its pretty much all free.
Maybe get a dog.
And find a purpose in life which doesn't involve making lots of money which is +karma and helps the world.
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11-09-2011, 09:14 AM
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#122
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
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that ****ing chair, is being a chair, over there, OMFG!!!
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this is so awesome lol
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11-09-2011, 09:45 AM
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#123
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old hand
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
best of luck db. i think the piece of advice that everyone would agree on is you need to do SOMETHING consistently to start out. something like working out consistently might be a good start, or getting on a good sleep schedule. once you have created one good habit, try to add one more. obv its not gonna be easy with how you feel now, but it will get easier as you make these good habits a part of your everyday life. good luck.
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11-09-2011, 09:49 AM
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#124
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
Not really posting this as advice or speaking to OP, just since fishnoob's awesome post touched on suicide, I always thought this was awesome:
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11-09-2011, 09:59 AM
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#125
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
I don't really have a lot of positive advice to add to what's already been said, but definitely don't play any more poker until you get your mental/emotional situation completely sorted out. I think PLO is sort of like psychedelics: If your mind isn't right going in, bad things are pretty likely to happen.
As to your thoughts of suicide, just remember that life changes all of the time. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Do you really think you're not going to have any profoundly positive/enriching experiences over the next 60 or 70 years?
You pretty much stop thinking about all of the bad stretches in life as soon as they're over. The good times will always stay with you though. Don't throw that away.
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11-09-2011, 10:14 AM
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#126
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Big Double-Daddy
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
Really sorry to hear about your situation DB.
Exercise has been mentioned in this thread often, and it's def something you should take up. You should also talk to a psychiatrist about your situation, hopefully that's already going on.
I'm also for taking a "real" job, not because I want you to quit poker, but because you need a reason to get out of the house. If you're backers are not in a hurry, you should take it easy on the poker front and take a break for another month or two. Getting a job will make you feel like a member of your local community, a functioning citizen. This has tremendous value for your self-esteem, eventhough it prob sounds lame at first. That's step 1.
Step 2 is getting back to poker, but that is not something you need to worry about right now. Just remember, you have not turned into a losing player, you just need to get into a humble mindset to survive any future downswings mentally and financially.
Also, be greatful for the life that you have now and all the amazing years ahead... you're so young still  . I'm 8 years your senior, and remember how I used to get anxious about finding my place in this world. You may be experiencing that same anxiety, now that you have doubts about a career in poker.
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11-09-2011, 10:23 AM
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#127
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
I disagree about a real job with his skills. Most jobs are ****, and not really a good way to get a social life either imo. Even if he grinds 1/2 he makes triple what he makes at a job, maybe evne more. Unless it is logging for a month with his uncle or something to get his head straight. But I doubt working at a warehouse or mcdonalds is gonna make him any happier.
Last edited by chipchip; 11-09-2011 at 10:27 AM.
Reason: hmm seems like we are agreeing anyway :)
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11-09-2011, 10:28 AM
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#128
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Big Double-Daddy
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
I'm not suggesting the job because of the money, DB obv has the skills to go from rags to riches in no time playing poker.
He needs to get healthy now, and should not be playing before he feels healthy. Logging with uncle is actually a good idea, maybe he has a relative to take him on as an "intern"?
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11-09-2011, 12:04 PM
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#129
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
Even disregarding the whole addiction to poker, he needs to get a job anyway - he is 300 buyins in makeup with his stakers and needs to support his mum, let alone meet people and get a true sense of the value of money.
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11-09-2011, 12:16 PM
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#130
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journeyman
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
enroll in a community college IMO. start exercising regularly. join a random club in college.
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11-09-2011, 12:36 PM
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#131
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Big Double-Daddy
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
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Originally Posted by wazz
Even disregarding the whole addiction to poker, he needs to get a job anyway - he is 300 buyins in makeup with his stakers and needs to support his mum, let alone meet people and get a true sense of the value of money.
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This depends a ton on what the backers are willing to agree to... making 60k at Home Depot or w/e will take time. Also, I'd like to know how urgent his mum's financial troubles are to be able to determine priorities. Obv, mum is number 1 in any case, but the best/fastest way of helping her financially may involve poker.
This is obv pure speculation w/o details...
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11-09-2011, 12:52 PM
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Connoisseur
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
HE'S AMERICAN HE HAS A MOM NOT A MUM
also do people really expect him to pay off his makeup with a regular job?
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11-09-2011, 01:01 PM
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#133
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
highly doubt it, makeup =/= debt
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11-09-2011, 01:04 PM
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#134
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
You got to be honest with yourself.
Its obv poker is all u want to do. Even if Ivey, Dwan and Antonius told u to get a job u wouldnt.
Give urself one last chance on a 50buyin stake/roll for plo200.
Concentrate all your energy into a balanced routine, like max 10hrs a day grinding, go the gym, eat well and socialise.
Do this for 3-6 months without moving up and re-evaluate your situation.
If a) You won a bunch, feel great and not depressed you can continue to be a professional gambler/poker player.
If b) You won a bunch, moved up, lost won a bunch and then lost again and so on and on and feel like sh1it most of the time, stop playing poker/gambling forever. If this happens u will never have the make up to be a gambler.
Main thing this is to be honest with urself.
Last edited by ShipItHertoDub; 11-09-2011 at 01:12 PM.
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11-09-2011, 01:10 PM
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#135
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: Getting my Groove Back (tl;dr)
Also all those advising get a job/go to college.
Theres no point in doing this if in the back of his mind all he wants to do is play poker.
He has to make a decision, if he wants to play poker, then with his personality he has to be committed to treating it like a business and lose all emotion with results(obv not the easiest thing to do).
If he wants a job/career then he has to stop playing poker forever.
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