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02-11-2017 , 05:26 PM
Hey guys this hand took place at a 2/5 live PLO game. Game is completely out of control villain 2 has me covered with 10k villain 1 has about 5k same with me. I'm in the SB with black queens and 3 6 red unrelated suits

Preflop villain one limps, he's loose and aggressive but not a great hand reader and will chase draws. Villain 2 is a very solid pro who is running like a house on fire, hence having 10k in chips playing 2/5. He raises to 25 from MP, the button calls I call big blind calls five to the flop for appx 125.

Flop 2 s 4s 5 c
Dangerous flop.... I check villain one bets pot, his range is huge here from sets and flush draws to the same hand as me. Villain 2 raises to 325, he's also really wide here but has a lot of nut hands in addition to draws, probably not many bluffs since villain one is sticky. Folds to me I end up calling as villain 1 does. 3 to the turn for 1200

Turn K c
I check villain one checks villain 2 bets almost pot, 1150$. What's your play? I am very concerned at this point of being freerolled since my hand can't improve.

Thanks in advance for all feedback
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02-11-2017 , 05:35 PM
Title should read OOP not pop lmao
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02-11-2017 , 06:57 PM
I'm jamming. If the guys a maniac then how likely is he free rolling us? Much more unlikely and there are quite a few bad action killer rivers or makes them better hands

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02-11-2017 , 06:58 PM
He could have good flush draw, sets and lower made straight too. There's so few hand combinations that are free rolling you here. Isn't villain one popping it with made straight on flop anyway?

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02-11-2017 , 07:02 PM
Villain 2 is an aggressive pro villain one is loose aggressive bordering on maniac. Villain ones range is definitely bigger than nuts / redraw but that is definitely in there. Might be an easy turn shove and I'm overthinking this spot... would not be the first time lol
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02-11-2017 , 07:10 PM
It is an easy turn shove IMO. Well played too. So deceptive. No way anyone puts you on the nuts either. That's what makes it even better spot to jam. You can't worry too much on the TURN about someone redrawing cause it's unlikely to happen now that youre on the turn bro

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02-11-2017 , 08:55 PM
your not overthinking... folding is even a move i consider
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02-11-2017 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Spades47
your not overthinking... folding is even a move i consider
Disagree. How can you ever fold the nuts in a cash game?

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02-11-2017 , 09:12 PM
You have the nuts on the turn in a massive pot. What do you want?
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02-11-2017 , 09:45 PM
We started hand with $5k... there's $1,200 in pot.
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02-11-2017 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DeKs
Disagree. How can you ever fold the nuts in a cash game?

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lol
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02-11-2017 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Spades47
We started hand with $5k... there's $1,200 in pot.
Wrong. Pot is 1200 but villain 2 bets 1150. 1200 + 1150 = 2250. Jimmy jam time. Dealer, I'm alllllll in

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02-11-2017 , 11:40 PM
Fold pre

As played we really have to jam, its not a good spot at all this deep but if we are going to call the raise on the flop we have to be willing to stack off on safe turns

The good news is villain should have much more a3 than 63 hands, there is an extremely low number of good 63xx hands to raise pre

Aa63, kk63, 6653, 6643, 7653, 8653 and the last 4 are quite marginal, him being a pro tells us quite a lot about his range here

Villain should have more 2p/set combo draws

Again its vital to not play these kind of junky 1way hands against strong opponents oop this deep, even when there is a fishy player in the hand
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