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12-15-2016 , 03:14 PM
I'm sure this has been asked numerous time's but here is my hand from my last session . 5-5 PLO game I'm on the button with 3456 double suited diamond and hearts . I pot it when it get's around to me to 150 . I have 4 caller's the flop come's 3s 5s 7c . I flop the nuts here with no spade draw nor higher straight . It check's to me I pot it of course to close to 900ish . I have BB go all in for around 3k and utg goes all in for less and last guy go all in for about 3 k also . I called of course my starting stack was around 4k to start the hand . My question is this should I have checked the flop to see what peel's off ? Also does anyone fold the flop if the UTG pot's it after the flop and everyone goes all in ? It's a draw heavy board of course but would anyone fold the nut's if action was different ?

Conclusion I called and it went brick brick and me and guy in seat 7 split pot with me getting a hair more due to his stack size. One guy had nut flush draw and set and the other had set and higher straight draw . The guy I chopped with had 64q9 with spades also .
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12-15-2016 , 03:23 PM
You invited trouble better deal with it
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12-16-2016 , 02:49 PM
i don't think i would pot this hand pre. i'd want the run down to be a little high, especially knowing that in live plo no one folds and you're bloating the pot.

as played, you got basically the best possible flop for your hand. you have to go with it now.
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12-16-2016 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by agnostia
i don't think i would pot this hand pre. i'd want the run down to be a little high, especially knowing that in live plo no one folds and you're bloating the pot.

as played, you got basically the best possible flop for your hand. you have to go with it now.
I like the idea of potting this sometimes but at such a presumably loose table I would agree with this assessment. And yea, gotta go with it after you flop the nutter butters

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12-18-2016 , 06:57 AM
Embarrassing how bad midstakes live players are.
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12-19-2016 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by phunkphish
Embarrassing how bad midstakes live players are.
I am open to any teaching
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12-19-2016 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jminc777
I am open to any teaching
Maybe don't pot raise a hand where you flop the best you could hope for and then wonder if you should fold it...

How did you pot it to 150 in a 5/5 game anyway?
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12-19-2016 , 11:55 PM
I have no problem raising this pre, especially from the button. Never folding 2 pair plus the nut straight.
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12-21-2016 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jminc777
I am open to any teaching
I believe the main thing he is saying is that he doesn't like your potting it preflop. Why do you think potting it is better than just calling? You don't have that good of a hand. You have two horrible flush draws that are just going to get you in trouble in a multi way pot. You're just going for a low straight, but your opponents can make higher straights and higher flushes and higher boats. Basically, he's saying why are you bloating the pot preflop with this speculative hand?

I like calling preflop with your hand on the button. It's not a great hand, but you can play it perfectly in the best position, so can still make it profitable.
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12-21-2016 , 02:48 PM
And no, I would not fold the nuts here.

Running the 4 hands, you have 14.9% equity.

Assuming the "all in for less" guy has about $1500 left, then you're calling off $2100 more to win $11400.

2100 / 11400 = .1842.

So you need 18.4% equity to make the call. You only have 14.9%. Still I'm never folding here. You need 18.4% only if you know exactly what everyone has. There are better scenarios to be against in this spot, such as you being the only one in the hand with a flopped straight, which could still happen with 4 people getting it in. If you're up against the nut flush draw with 68, top set, and 2nd set with 68, then you have 30% equity.

I would never consider folding for only $2100 more. If you were way deeper, you could consider folding in certain spots.
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12-28-2016 , 07:25 PM
should have checked the flop lol
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