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10-21-2010 , 01:24 PM
i have been getting a lot of PMs asking for coaching and other advice. i have found i am repeating myself some. so please ask any questions you have for me in here. from PLO to SNE to life.

i will try to respond daily and will most likely be more often than that. as always play well and ask away.
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10-21-2010 , 01:26 PM
1st

stakes $ how many tables? how many vpps avg an hour doing so?
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10-21-2010 , 01:28 PM
What steaks do you play? What kind of sick swings are you experiencing in PLO, 40BI swings yet? How do you feel about the people that are ok with losing at -1BB/100 just to hit SNE? Thanks, and good luck.
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10-21-2010 , 01:32 PM
Does being SNE make you feel good in itself or is it just a means to make more money?

Your top tip for remaining calm and tilt free when you are running terribly.
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10-21-2010 , 01:34 PM
Great idea

Pop corn gif............. cant be arsed to find it
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10-21-2010 , 01:48 PM
How big was your BR when you started the year?

Do you play shallow tables?

What is a good 1/2 winrate for a top reg? At stars 1/2 NL cash the top would usually be like 6-7bb/100 long-term (not HU obviously). Is it higher for PLO?

Would you ever want to play high-stakes or is the idea of +/- $50k days too much to handle?

What live donkaments are you going to go to with your SNE package?
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10-21-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SNGrider
1st

stakes $ how many tables? how many vpps avg an hour doing so?
12 tables of 1-2 to 3-6 lately. been running bad so i have been avoiding 5-10. i try to only play 1-2 at a time and will mix 2-4 and 3-6 together.


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Originally Posted by bobross13
What kind of sick swings are you experiencing in PLO, 40BI swings yet? How do you feel about the people that are ok with losing at -1BB/100 just to hit SNE? Thanks, and good luck.
swings: $20k seems to be the average down swing and am currently in one of my most annoying ones probably ever ($23k and 66 BIs). i feel i have not played better and just cant win a pot.

if some one has decided they want SNE badly enough to lose at a 1BB winrate (which is still +$ at PLO) then i can not hold that against them. every goal has sacrifices. they made a goal and are making sacrifices to meet that goal. losing to earn SNE takes much more determination than winning while doing it. Nanonoko (aka Mr. Amazing Awesome Spectacular to most of us) probably has the easiest time ever earning SNE.


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Originally Posted by Royston Vasey
Does being SNE make you feel good in itself or is it just a means to make more money?

Your top tip for remaining calm and tilt free when you are running terribly.
yes and yes. poker for some is a job, some a past time, some play only for pride and some have other reasons. i fit into all those categories.

and ty
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10-21-2010 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Verstehen
How big was your BR when you started the year?

Do you play shallow tables?

What is a good 1/2 winrate for a top reg? At stars 1/2 NL cash the top would usually be like 6-7bb/100 long-term (not HU obviously). Is it higher for PLO?

Would you ever want to play high-stakes or is the idea of +/- $50k days too much to handle?

What live donkaments are you going to go to with your SNE package?
$20k ish

yes at 2-4 and higher. i feel the rake makes these games very difficult to beat lower than 2-4. but sometimes it takes 45 minutes to get on 12 1-2 40-100 tables so i have been mixing a couple short table in there just to get to 12 faster before i have all 40-100.

i do have aspirations to play HS and have played some 10-20 on my way up but +/-$50k may be too much for me to handle while i still rely on poker as my sole source of income. i should be able to live entirely off of my retirement fund in the next 5-10 years and i think that stability will make me more comfortable with playing higher.
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10-21-2010 , 02:20 PM
What made you decide to get into PLO and how did you first learn? Just playing or did you read/get coaching?

Thanks for taking the time to do this and gl, hopefully joining the sne chase next yr (not plo tho)
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10-21-2010 , 02:22 PM
yo wassup
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10-21-2010 , 02:24 PM
do you still feel motivated to play a lot of tables now that you have SNE, or is it more difficult to sit down and grind?
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10-21-2010 , 02:35 PM
mini bio, aka, age, where youre from, fav beer, stuff outside poker, etc, etc
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10-21-2010 , 02:37 PM
congrats and thanks for doing this!

how old are you?
tell a bit about your poker background...how did you start, do you have many friends in poker etc
how long have you been playing poker?
what else do you do besides play poker?
do you have a girlfriend? if so, does she understand your love towards pokers?
which poker book has influenced you the most?
your goals for 2011?
how long is your average session?

thanks!
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10-21-2010 , 02:46 PM
Grats, and thanks for doing this!

- Do you have any "stoploss" rules when youre grinding?
- What is your biggest loosing day in BI's?
- What is your biggest winning day in BI's?
- How many hours of 12 tabling each day does it take to get SNE?
- How do you improve your game? Coach? Wathcing PLO videos? books? talk to friends? 2p2? And what have influenced you most to become better?

Feel free to dont answer this:
I've played a couple of thousand hands vs you, so:
- What do you think is my biggest leak?
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10-21-2010 , 03:10 PM
will PLO ever be as popular as hold em?

Also please address the "what's a good winrate for 1/2?" question from my earlier post.

Thanks for doing this.
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10-21-2010 , 03:10 PM
Favorite PLO hand ? (suits must be specified as well)

and congrats
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10-21-2010 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Verstehen
What is a good 1/2 winrate for a top reg? At stars 1/2 NL cash the top would usually be like 6-7bb/100 long-term (not HU obviously). Is it higher for PLO?
missed this Q, 10-13bb/100 by the best players, but they do not play 1-2. for a good solid reg i would say 5-7 is pretty good

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Originally Posted by jdawg91
What made you decide to get into PLO and how did you first learn? Just playing or did you read/get coaching?

Thanks for taking the time to do this and gl, hopefully joining the sne chase next yr (not plo tho)
just as i started getting descent at NLHE i also became bored with the grind and needed something new. i talked with friends and watched several videos (need to start that again). there wasnt a lot of reading material on PLO.


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Originally Posted by xss127
yo wassup
HOLLAR!!!

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Originally Posted by Verstehen
do you still feel motivated to play a lot of tables now that you have SNE, or is it more difficult to sit down and grind?
yes to still motivated, for me it is difficult getting me away from the tables and off my computer. i love playing. i need action. not in a gambling sense but for entertainment. video games and watching tv are boring to me. i need the constant movement and challenges or i am instantly restless, fidgety and bored. i have 2 speeds: as much as possible and just passed out.


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Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen
Grats, and thanks for doing this!

- Do you have any "stoploss" rules when youre grinding?
- What is your biggest loosing day in BI's?
- What is your biggest winning day in BI's?
- How many hours of 12 tabling each day does it take to get SNE?
- How do you improve your game? Coach? Wathcing PLO videos? books? talk to friends? 2p2? And what have influenced you most to become better?

Feel free to dont answer this:
I've played a couple of thousand hands vs you, so:
- What do you think is my biggest leak?
-i wish stop loss was something i had. i used to. lost it.
-biggest loss and win are right around 25-30 BIs (i had a 40 something loss last dec but dont consider what was going on there a normal grind.)
-12 tabling 1-2 is around 3-4 hours as one session including stop start. 2-4 is 2 hours.
-i do not do enough of this anymore and it has probably shown. i normally watch videos and look over my stats dissecting where i am losing and seeing where i can add winning strategies.

---i count 23738 hands this year and have you have done very good in my database. as for your leaks i went in to our vs thing i was surprised that i was up on you. there is no EV included in that tab but i honestly always kind of feel like i played/ran poorly against you. we havent played much together lately and i feel you are one of the better players.
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10-21-2010 , 03:26 PM
How hard do you think the switch from NLHE to PLO was? Could a winning reg at 2/4 NLHE make the switch to PLO 1/2?

I'm getting bored with NLHE like you said you were, but poker is my sole source of income so I hesitate trying to switch as I need the income.
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10-21-2010 , 03:26 PM
play anywhere other than stars? If so, how do the games compare?
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10-21-2010 , 03:29 PM
Have you ever played 12 tables of NLHE? If you have, which game do you think is easier to mass table, NLHE or PLO? Reasons?

Another discussion I've been involved in lately is PLO swings. I know it doesn't cover everything, but what is your standard deviation in bb/100?
You said you are on a 66bi downswing. Is that your biggest ever?

Also, poast giraffe.
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10-21-2010 , 03:35 PM
drugs?
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10-21-2010 , 03:36 PM
BIO:

-26

-from Grand Rapids, MI live in fort collins, CO hope to retire somewhere tropical in the next 5-10 years

-favorite beer: pacifico, Red Stripe. hard alcohol is Basil Hayden's and good vodka (i like different vodkas depending on what im doing/eating/else i am or will be drinking. mainly ketel one, chopin, and goose.)

-favorite thing to do besides poker: work out and eat at nice restuarants and drink. also traveling is fun too.

-favorite food: expensive LOL. i love comfort foods too i just stay away from them due to my supeactive career.

-i have a GF soon to be fiance, she first loved the fact that i worked so much because her other bfs were dead beats. last month she got a little annoyed with it because i increased my volume considerably but i explained to her that this gets us to Monaco, bahamas, nice restuarants and those bottles of champagne she loves, and ultimately our retirement. she liked it again . (but we will be taking a vacation this weekend, she made me.)

-2011: was 2m VPPs and 1.7m hands of 2-4. this goal depends a lot on this month and it isnt looking good. i have run horrible but i do not have a lot of faith in AIEV (the longer the term the less i believe) or even sklansky (which dies anyways) so if i lose, i consider it my fault. however as long as this monthis about as bad as next year can deal out it looks goodish still.

-avg session: 2 to 3.5 hours. that is longer than is optimal for me but i am working to increase my stamina for next year.

favorite PLO hand: in NL it is 5h 2h. so 5522 DS would be hot. as for PLO, nope i know it is. Ah Ac 9s 9d.

PartyPoker, $5.00/10.00 Pot limit Omaha Cash Games, 4 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
SB: $1,750.50
BB: $401
CO: $3,588
Button: $1,874

Dealt to Button 9 9 A A

Pre-flop:
CO raises to $35, Button raises to $120, (2 folds), CO calls $85

Flop: ($255) 9 9 3 (2 Players)
CO checks, Button bets $170, CO raises to $763, Button calls $593

Turn: ($1,781) 6 (2 Players)
CO bets $1,000, Button calls $991

River: ($3,772) 8 (2 Players)

Results:
CO wins $9
CO Showed 2 A K K
Button Showed 9 9 A A
Button wins $3,761
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10-21-2010 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Verstehen
will PLO ever be as popular as hold em?
short answer, no. long answer i once though it would be and was another reason i forgot about when i switched to PLO. my reasoning for thinking PLO would be more popular is because of the gambling action anything can happen nature of the game. but for a cash game to be popular it must be fueled by recreational players. the same thing that gives PLO its nature of "crazy" is the same thing that turns off a recreational player at first glance. PLO has too many variables, rules and nuances for the average wants to sit down with a drink and relax player.

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Originally Posted by mcleod014
How hard do you think the switch from NLHE to PLO was? Could a winning reg at 2/4 NLHE make the switch to PLO 1/2?

I'm getting bored with NLHE like you said you were, but poker is my sole source of income so I hesitate trying to switch as I need the income.
i made it much more difficult than it needed to be by playing way too many tables to learn. i do not thnk it is easy but for a 2/4 winner you will be a good enough poker* player to quickly learn how to play PLO. i would not say it would be immediate but i have seen several crushing NL players come over to the "fun" side and do very well.

*what i mean by this there are a lot of things that transfer between games and they are "poker laws" or whatever you want to call them. you will not know the rules of PLO or nuances but your knowledge of player profiles and position etc will not need to be learned thus shortening learning time and increasing your chances at being a winning player.

as for being bored: keep playing your normal hours. set aside a set amount of money and play PLO as if you were going to professionally. stop losses, BR management, etc. start at lower stakes than at NL. play 6 tables (maybe less) and do it in your free time. it wont cut into your hourly and the money is set aside will not affect your BR. note of concern, i found it difficult (still do) to switch back and forth between the 2 frequently.


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Originally Posted by Your Mom
play anywhere other than stars? If so, how do the games compare?
i have, not recently. they were softer IMO but i have not played else where in some time.


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Originally Posted by dercon
Have you ever played 12 tables of NLHE? If you have, which game do you think is easier to mass table, NLHE or PLO? Reasons?

Another discussion I've been involved in lately is PLO swings. I know it doesn't cover everything, but what is your standard deviation in bb/100?
You said you are on a 66bi downswing. Is that your biggest ever?

Also, poast giraffe.
i used to 24 table FRNL for SNE early 2009. NL is much easier to play more tables of. PLO has more decisions that are more intricate than NLHE does. lately i have been 12-18 tabling micro SHNL for fun and it is easier than 12 tabling PLO

std dev: 126bb/100

excluding self inflicted downswings yes i believe this is my biggest to date (although not in monetary value).


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Originally Posted by ughaulkghalugh
drugs?
only booze and cigarettes when i drink. not even caffeine (unless sometimes in an alcoholoc beverage.) but i do not judge, to each their own and drugs if taken recreationally and responsibly are a victimless crime.
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10-21-2010 , 04:03 PM
this is when i stopped going for 2m VPPs on the year:

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10-21-2010 , 04:13 PM
^^ev graph is a must !
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