Party Poker $600.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BTN: $517.10
SB: $662.15
BB: $939.10
UTG: $769.45
MP: $678.30
Hero (CO): $600.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is CO with A Q T 6
2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 1 fold, SB calls $18, BB calls $15

Flop: ($63.00) 8 Q T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $48.00, SB calls $48, BB raises to $252, Hero calls $204, SB folds

Turn: ($615.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $327.00, Hero calls $327



Party Poker $600.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Party Poker $400.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $397.90
BTN: $526.30
SB: $727.00
BB: $340.30
Hero (UTG): $400.00
MP: $674.35

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG with A A 9 8
Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, BTN calls $14, 1 fold, BB calls $10

Flop: ($44.00) K 5 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $32.00, BTN calls $32, BB raises to $169.80, Hero calls $137.80, BTN folds

Turn: ($415.60) T (2 players)
BB bets $156.50, Hero calls $156.50




Villain in hand one is a fishy passive 56/11 or so. Pretty sure he has J9. Guy in between is pretty bad. I'm obviously never folding so I flat to let the SB continue with his dominated draws if he wants?

Same thing in #2, although the guy check raising is almost certainly setted, he is 39/5 or so, does anybody ever considering folding this? the guy in between is like 90/5 so he can have anything. If I'm contuing, flatting has to be better than shoving to keep him in right?

Am I missing something here?

I would re-pot it on the flop with both hands.

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why

eh, doesnt make too much difference. id re-ship the first just incase sb c/c w/J9, although i dont think shoving makes him more or less likely to continue or fold with whatever his hand is. the second one is pretty much the same, with so little behind it doesnt really matter.

On both hands, you can get it all in while you're about 2 to 3.

Re-pot hand 1. You're a favorite against a straight. Hand 2 I don't mind flatting to allow button to make a mistake with a lower flush draw, but it's whatever. Nobody is gonna say shipping hand 2 is a spew.

I KNOW I Can shove both hands on the flop profitably, but I want someone to give me some reasons why shoving can be better than calling to possibly allow the weak player to act behind to call with a very dominated hand

The general gist of what i was trying to say is that in both these situations, given you're hand/board texture/relative depth, calling is almost never going to induce an action from the third villain different to that which shoving will, and thus shoving is almost always going to be best (assuming you have made the decision to stack off which ever way you plan to do it).

You're also less likely to get paid off when you make your hands and the initial raiser can play pretty perfectly against you.

because it's annoying when villain c/folds a flush completing card when we play our hand like a draw.