Hi, i have one question related to this whole discussion:

Is it maybe possible to get/create a list here where we put in confirmed human being players and guys that are non-bots for sure (or close to sure).

Don`t know if this is a dumb idea, but i think i would feel better if i would know that msorange or greeneyes are known guys... Maybe possible to look at this all from the positive site also.

I play these stakes as well and can confirm ichbin and superm8 and dntgiveadmn have 100% same stats over huge sample of hands. They play the most volume of all regs on these stakes

Reported them as well. Its rly sad ippoker does nothing about this

Green eyes was the guy trying to play me with iwind all the time. Everytime I left they were never playing each other HU.

greeneyes is very weird, just put it this way

I think we should not share/post details of the players tendencies here. Its wrong to post these here. These should be shared between these guys per PM who are interested and able to spot/find some evidence.

Even if things looks suspicios or strange. As long as they are not confirmed guilty detailed stats of a player are nothing for the public eye. Or am i wrong?

I reported the bolded and a couple of others extremely similar a long time ago, nothing changed. They did reply though, saying that they don't have sufficient proof of foul play. They took about 1-2 weeks to investigate.

I can imagine that there is maybe a conflict of interest in the house. Let`s say that the suspicious accounts are really colluding or botting. If you look at the PLO100+ pool then there wouldn`t be much action left.

The more i think about it the less i would exclude the chance of "ipoker gives a f...". Reason: Bots and colluders generate rake and there is already not much action. They know that their software is crap and it`s only about gaining some money and they don`t care about how.

Look at the development of the client: same peace of shi... since a decade and maybe only used like a ill cash cow who gives some milk but you know it`s dying.

Or these are house-bots. Ipoker told itself that they are thinking about house-bots. They said that they will mark these "bots" if they would use these. But maybe someone in the management got the idea "not to tell" because it`s more EV for them.

I am pretty sure orange and greeneyes are bots too, as well as raisethis45 the new account. I have basically stopped playing on ipoker for the most part. I was one of their biggest rakers and table starters. I just sent a huge e-mail off to their security team about how I won't be playing there anymore unless they clean up all of these accounts. The games are already dying fast on Ipoker, there used to be 12+ tables of midstakes PLO running at all times. Now there is barely 4-5.

Usually I think a bot indication is that the BTN VPIP is the highest, and BB is way lower than BTN and only a bit lower than SB. I see some guys whose BTN VPIP is around 45-48%, SB 34% and BB is 31%, which is obv very weird.Because lets say a competent guy knows how to play the BTN as a caller and when unopened so I guess he would kinda try to defend more from the BB.

I think if these accounts are bots then it makes sense because as from maybe a person who programs bots perspective I think the hardest part would be to implement is the oop eq realization and maybe these bots are much more focusing on playing IP.

Am i wrong or is there much less traffic the last days than usual at ipoker? Some of the standard regs i haven`t seen at all or much less than usual.

Did anyone recognize the same?

I am not sure what conclusions to make of this. Did ipoker ban accounts or did some regs stop playing now because they are afraid of getting cheated? Both i think is the best explanation for the low traffic. Isn`it?

I am not playing anymore on iPoker thats for sure.

I should have a reply from Ipoker within a few days. I am one of the main table starters 6max ipoker plo200 - 600 and I don't play much anymore. Used to play every day.

Ill prob stop now too

There is def something fishy going on on iPoker.
I moved my action away from iPoker for a while now.
Talked to napsus back than when i suspected some accounts at least botting if not colluding. Emailed iPoker but they couldnt find any foul plays...

If greeneyes is a bot then he's somewhat competant at HU which is worrying. I doubt raisethis is a bit. he's terrible.

I wonder if today's news headline has anything to do with it...'iPoker Rooms Withdraw Online Poker from Ukraine and Russia'

The Ukrainian withdrawal occurred on August 15 and is apparently a network-wide decision. Affected players were emailed and given until the end of the month to withdraw real money balances.

Departure from Russia is apparently only from three skins at this stage: Gala Casino Poker and Coral Poker, owned by the publicly listed Gala Coral group, and Mansion Poker. (URL)

But is there any reason mentioned why they banned players from russia and ukrain?

I think that has to do with some legal restrictions. Maybe the room(s) don`t have licenses needed to offer gambling for people in these countries...

Or they recognized that russians and ukrainians are 99% cheaters...

Any recognized two players "LemonGrove" and "BananaTra1n" sitting for hours and hours on a buch of PLO100+ tables and waiting for players. But do not play against each other?

WTF is that? Funny that while i am writing they left the tables... Were sitting there the whole night... What a coincident. lol. karma

Both SuperM8 and ICHbinWin stopped playing on August 24th.

1. Thx for your effort Greg20

2. I had a look at my database and i recognized something strange, suspicious and would like to ask if some others could also check their data on following player: "slapdatpussy"

The reason why i am a bit curious now is following: I looked into my PLO100 data for vs player data and recognized that i lost a lot of money (bb/100) to him and the win/loss-hand-ratio is ridiculous. Some of that may be explained by the fact that i played more hands in the BB and SB against him, but it`s still too high imo. Then i looked at his overall winnings in my database and this is like insane bb/100. So it wasn`t only me that lost a lot of money against him i guess...

I won`t share his stats here, but imo winning with his stats and style is also something ridiculous. Even if it is not a big samplesize that i have on him.

Would be nice if someone could have a look. If you find nothing interesting in your database, that is also an info.

I am not accusing anyone here of cheating or any wrong doing. I only found something what looks strange in my eyes and would like to hear other opinions.

Just, no. He's a very loose/aggro fun player who's loosing huge.

1,5K hands on him and seeing him taking 800 from me, 6K in total and winning $ at 60% of showdowns, a win-loose ratio of 3:1 against me...at plo100... doesnt look like "loosing huge" from my end...

slapdatpussy is a massive whale, he is very bad, and loses a lot. You got unlucky in your sample vs him. He will also chat with you at any time.

I never received a reply from Ipoker. I also quit playing there over a month ago now

Was 0utkast confirmed as a bot or did he just randomly quit playing? He and GreenEyes23 have indentical stats and the latter seems to playing 24/7 aswell.