I don't think that thread is at all like this one tho Napsus. We aren't throwing around a lot of names, just a few suspect ones. Could you keep this thread open for the time being please? I think it's quite a bit more constructive than the other thread.

Yes not the same, one of OP's accused accounts has been suspended. The bots are going nowhere they're obviously just changing. A method to staying on top of it privately would be ideal tho

MrHusseinAA discussion derails this thread a bit but anyway...

There is/was two MrHusseinAA that belonged to different players. They played sometimes at the same table. (different style) Don't remember how the spelling differianted but they were easy to mix.

My assumption is first one belonged to some recreational player and some smart ass reg wanted to play with the same nick.

this thread is obv fine, the other one was just way too flimsy

Sorry I will definitely add you on Skype. I will be adding you on my laptop which I don't use to play online poker on for safety concerns. Hopefully we can get other ipoker regs to join to discuss who is possibly colluding or botting.

Do you have a separate cpu that you don't use for poker? Possibly phone?

Honestly I am not much of a stats guy like the poster who has helped us investigate in this thread so I'm not sure how far we will get but it is worth a shot. It was mentioned earlier in this thread suspicions being raised because of running significantly below EV. Ipoker has been by far my main site for the past 4 years and for the past 3 years I have run significantly below EV every year and it is very frustrating. Although I haven't found a network that I've ran at or above EV on yet either. I quit stars 4 years ago for this exact reason, running below EV on that site had basically ruined my life.
I am not trying to cry cheater because of running below EV, I would of done that a long time ago if that was my intention. I just find some very suspicious play from time to time and it's worth investigating. Especially since players can have many different nicknames on Ipoker network because of how many skins there are.

It's also important to note for the ney sayers that this thread is based on an accusation that turned out to be justified by Ipoker security (who is generally laughed at in the poker community for being a joke). I suspected a player of botting and reported it to ipoker security that player was promptly "suspended" by Ipoker security. This was the first time I had ever reported anyone for suspected cheating / botting. Their exact reply was “Whilst the claims of your player were unfounded with regards to the account being linked to those found on a forum thread, we did find sufficient suspicious activity on the account in order to suspend it. Please thank your player for reporting their concerns and assure them that the appropriate action has been taken with regards to their complaint.”

When I asked for further information. They said they can't provide me with that information.

Danfiu did u or any compare those stats to the fedor scandal ?

No, I havent compared,but I am very positive that these 2 events dont have nothing to do with each other..My incident was based on MA/hole card sharing and in fedors case botting was also included heavily...**** cheaters

Kinda sick seeing this, I started playing on ipoker a few weeks ago plo400-600 mostly and a bit of 1k and felt I was getting cheat in some way.

Sometimes there would be nobody sitting at any table so I would open one, and player 1windrunnr would always sit to my right, then another guy to my left and if I quit the table they instantly quit... until I reopen a new table then they rejoin.

I am not saying hes a bot bcz he made a very light call and he was right, but is that not a bit weird when I basicly havent ever played with him before?

IPoker, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BB): $659.60 (109.9 bb)
SB: $632 (105.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jd 8s 9h Td
SB raises to $15, Hero raises to $45, SB calls $30

Flop: ($90) 2d 6s 3d (2 players)
Hero bets $63, SB calls $63

Turn: ($216) 3c (2 players)
Hero bets $132, SB calls $132

River: ($480) 6c (2 players)
Hero bets $419.60 and is all-in, SB calls $392 and is all-in

Results: $1,264 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: 2d 6s 3d 3c 6c
Hero mucked Jd 8s 9h Td and lost (-$632 net)
SB showed 9d 5d Kd 2s and won $1,263 ($631 net)

There is something strange about 1windrunnr for sure.

Every day we have the same interaction:

- he sits me HU at one or two 6 max tables
- I sit out or play 1-2 hands and sitout
- he leaves and I sit back in
- 1 minute later he rejoins and we repeat the above

This happens over and over again, sometimes up to 20 times.

This is either a bot or a reg that is trolling me and REALLY wants to play me HU.

I have no stats on nobody on ipoker but can somebody compare 1wind to previous bot that got caught?

lol this hand, not sure who played it worse!

also he´s kinda newish account afaik, so don't have much stats on him!

on another sidenote, may he plays you cause you´re a new account w/o much history?

hehe, didnt say that hand was cute.

Nahhh, he does play 6max depending on who's there, It's just very unusual to see somebody sit on your right every single time and then when you quit to give him the table he leaves also, but then when you resit he sits back. He also doesnt care getting grim or anything like that I saw it against some other player also he would rejoin as soon as X person sits back in.

I also can't remember the other guy SN but lot of time I get sandwich with wind and some other guy, but when I leave they never play HU and both instantly quit the table.

I'll do the numbers compared to the former bots if I get the data

3-10 handed / since June 1st

Wow, that is not looking good! Very likely bots. I see some of the same tendencies and patterns as from the first two generations of bots.

Could you please check 4-bet, fold to 4-bet, bet flop checked to, bet turn checked to?

And yes, report it asap!

i checked my little database and there is something strange. Push and 1w1 never played a hand against each other. Might be coincident because my database is so small but i would look into this in the bigger database. If they have not played at the same table then it is really strange, because the PLO100+ environment isn`t that big at ipoker that this could happen by accident. Then they obv avoid each other...

have like 6k hands on w1nd and 21k on PUSH, they played in my DB a total of 21 Hands on the same table... this is rly suspicious!

going to send the stats to grethe, so check ya pms bro!

so i was right...

these numbers make only sense if there is some kind of connection between these two accounts.

nice input troll! Lets see what happens...

make sense, I rarely suspect anyone to be a bot but my instinct told me that this guy was a bot 99% sure.

How do I report them btw?

Contact the customer support of the site you are playing from. Tell them that there are suspicious things going on. Two players, same stats, never stitting at same table, (as far as i know never chatting), stats like a bot ring before... bla bla.. they will forward this to ipoker then and they will have a look.

I did so already. My experience was redicolous because i had a support newbie at the other hand who had no idea of poker... Wanted to copy chat, but forgot... was hilarious this guy... Asked for "proof" and said there is nothing he can do... But finally he got it and will forward it. But to ensure this i will contact my support again.

But it is good that others also report. The more people ask for investigation, the better it is...

...or they will tell you to contact software developers and call it solved. o_O

sometimes...



but the case with 0utkast, rhombuz involved gives me some...