I am a longtime PLO grinder on Ipoker. Last year I had over 300,000 hands played at PLO 200 - PLO 1000. This year I have approx. 220,000 hands played. For the trolls I win at a good rate pre rakeback.

Since the beginning of the year I have always suspected a couple accounts of botting the highest stakes PLO games on Ipoker. Thinking that nothing could be done because of Ipokers infamous security, I tried to ignore it and play vs them the best I could.

One day after a large downswing I was super angry and had enough. I e-mailed the skins poker manager and told him about the botter. He told me to write him a formal e-mail about the suspected botter / cheater and so I did. I wrote about how I suspected this player was the same bot from pokerstars that was banned about a year ago made famous by the 2+2 thread - and he sent the e-mail off to ipoker security.
About a week later I received a response saying

"Whilst the claims of your player were unfounded with regards to the account being linked to those found on a forum thread, we did find sufficient suspicious activity on the account in order to suspend it. Please thank your player for reporting their concerns and assure them that the appropriate action has been taken with regards to their complaint.”

The player in question I am talking about is 0utkast on ipoker. If you have played even a small sample size of PLO on ipoker PLO200+, you have certainly played with this account.
I have noticed another account that plays EXACTLY like him is now playing in his place, the account I am referring to is rhombuz.
Keep in mind that both of these accounts are winning accounts regardless of a fun player being present or a table full of regs and tough regs.
I suspect over the past 3 years 0utkast has easily played over 1 million hands on ipoker, cheating in some fashion be it botting or other means (what else could it be?).

What made you think Outkast was a bot out of interest?

Lot of **** happening on ipoker....,I also got scammed for 40k last year...(but those were MA-ers on same table,not bots)

rho_mbuz is not a new account neither, so what does makes u think he´s the new outkast? also their stats are not really "exactly like him"!

i don't say there is no botting or scummy things on ipkr i just wonder what makes u think this two are one of them other that they play a kinda similar style?

"What made you think Outkast was a bot out of interest? "

Just my instincts after battling 50k+ hands with him. His strategy is always the exact same and he NEVER even SLIGHTLY tilts. He's never chatted once out of the hundreds of times I've tried to chat with him. He just doesn't seem to have one element of human play to him. Of course this does not mean he is 100% a bot but I am 95% sure he is, or atleast SOMETHING fishy is going on. He plays a GTO style vs new opponents and other GTO style players while exploiting any weaknesses in stats. I know this is all normal for the top tier players but this guy just has something too robotic about him. For the record, there are some better players than him that I do not suspect of botting at all.


Correct Rhombuz is not a new account, but as I stated he plays the EXACT same. I would imagine if this is a bot, it has many accounts on many different sites. You don't even need to have different identities to have multiple screen names on ipoker since there are so many skins.


Danfiu, sorry to hear that. Can you please share the screen names of the accused? I still play on there frequently and would like to avoid anything similar happening to myself. Even if they have been banned I would like to check my hand histories.

Have you broken down the numbers compared to the busted bots?

I haven't. I'm not that good with holdem manager. If someone would like to help me by telling me the easiest way to do it, I would.

I stopped playing on ipoker a year ago because I suspected some really shady **** going on, one of those players was 0utkast. Curious to see what transpires of this thread.

Story please

I've sent you a PM

Not sure how much actual experience I've had playing against bots but I imagine they wouldn't be any more or less exploitable than your average player.

You went through all my posts to find this? Lol..

It is kind of ironic I said that. I am truly amazed that bots can play PLO near the highest level. That being said I would still take myself over the most advanced PLO bot out there, for now atleast.

It depends who adapts faster to what the other is doing.

I talked to a few of the 5/10 regs who were really happy this happened. Unfortunately it seems none of the PLO 1000 regs or even PLO 200 400 and 600 regs check this forum. Otherwise surely they would post something in this thread

If anyone with a decent database of ipoker players wants to do some bot hunting and/or collusion hunting then feel free to PM.

Hi, i am playing at IPoker and 0utkast was really an pain in the azz. I remember that one guy was talking at the tables via chat that he is obv a bot or some kind of cheater. After that it took a few days and 0utkast was gone. Thanks for the guy who took him down...



There are also a few other suspicios accounts that are multitabling 6-8 tables and this for hours and hours. Never chat when you ask something and never change style. I am very very careful who i play against. when i am not on tilt.

Anyone any opinons on the regs there? The >=PLO100 tables are usually full of regs.
Would be nice to know which of these are "normal" guys... Maybe we could think this way too. Put the names of regs that are known correct guys and then have a look at the rest...

I've done some numbers for PokerBananas compared to the two first generations of bots. Based on a sample of 25k hands of data, I think it is safe to assume, that if villain (0utk.) is a bot, it is a bot with a quite new style. Almost none of the data patterns looks the same - and many differ with 10%-20%. From my POV it looks like a solid reg with a unique approach.

If anyone else got data to provide I'll run the numbers again.

Yes controlling that was me at the tables saying 0utkast is a bot. At the time, It was pure suspicion and I had just reported to Ipoker my suspicions with no real expectation of anything being done. It is obvious what I am saying is true though, 0utkast played everyday for 8 hours+ and hasn't been seen in weeks.

As far as other players cheating in the same way as 0utkast, the only person I strongly suspect is Rhombuz as I said earlier. I could be wrong, but the others seem like good regs. Of course card sharing is always a possibility and should never be ruled out for anyone.

Thank you Grethe for the analysis. I am still not convinced that 0utkast isn't a bot, because I feel like he is cheating in some way for sure, as did Ipoker security team obviously since they rarely suspend / ban anyone. It is clear he is not the same bot as the one on pokerstars though.

Cool. Great job. 0utkast was cheating for sure. Never saw him playing since. I will have a look at Rhombuz and i will also have a look who was sitting with 0utkast at the tables.

Any other suspects at ipoker?
Liisaaaxx for example chats often what i have seen and i have seen him on tilt.

I tried to look at my database but its not huge enough... rhombuz basic stats (VPIPF, PFR, 3bet, postflop aggression, went to showdown % and won dollar went to showdown%) are similar to 0utkast... at least interesting..

i checked 0utkast play a bit... cardsharing was obviously not the problem. He was playing 3 to 6 handed and always different opponents. If cardsharing than always with new dummies. But unlikely imo.

Agreed 0utkast will normally sit in a game to make it 3 handed, but will rarely if ever play heads up. So card sharing is unlikely. There really isn't any other ways to cheat i'm aware of besides botting and cardsharing, unless he can see other peoples cards with virus software. Bot seems the most likely by far.

since i´ve a pretty big DB i might can deliver some stats u need, just lmk which ones and i´ll filter for it. here are the basic stats for both of them.

Outkast:



rh0mbuz:

Wow, nice database there troll account. Thank you for sharing. Can you post only 0utkast hands from this year so we can compare to Rhombuz? 0utkast play style was completely changed this year from previous years. Then we can see how similar 0utkast and Rhombuz are since Rhombuz only showed up this year

If the findings are similar I will immediately report Rhombuz to Ipoker security as well

there we go: