1/2/5, 8 handed

Hero ($600): Tighter than most pre-flop and aggressive with good hands post. Will not gii light.

V (covers): PLO reg from what I can tell. Solid player who will put pressure on the table.

Rest of the table is pretty average – a couple decent players, but mostly too loose pre, gii light, calling raises with marginal hands, etc., but will fold if the pot gets too big. Fairly weak/passive. Stacks are $500+

Hero is UTG with AdAx8d3x
V is BTN

First question: Do I raise, call or fold (seems terrible)? If I raise, at least two or three players will call, maybe more. I’m sure someone will raise at some point, so do I wait and 3bet?

OTTH:

EP calls, MP (weak player) raises to $20, LP calls, V 3bets to $105.

V most likely has a double-suited rundown (at least three good cards), maybe double-suited KK or possibly AA (so unlikely).

Do we 4bet bad AA prepared to gii, call and see a flop, or just fold? If we call, EP will most likely fold since he limped, MP will probably come along and will not 4bet w/o a monster, and LP might join in, but he’s another weak player.

I love PLO but don’t get to play often, so not sure what to do in this spot. Thanks.

Easy 4bet.


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Sorry, VA was BTN.

gii

you're not deep, just gii

these AA are not as bad as you think

flush draw suited to the ace and wheel possibility should make this AA hand at least average-strength

super obvious jam as played

rest of table is pretty average，humble comments

And this is why I usually stay away from this forum. Posters like you make the rest of us wonder why we bother.

youve been a member for 10 years and dont already know that this is the easiest ship in the world? Id say you haven't been trying.

I assume you are new to PLO, good rule of thumb: if you can put 40-50% of your stack in preflop w AA, it will basically always be better than any other option/

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que?

Also you have aces 100bb deep and a chance to gii, so, what are you even asking?

I get to play PLO a few times a year, if I'm lucky. I read this forum for advice, see how rude most of the posters are to novice players and end up not reading this forum for months. This is why. I thought I'd give posting a couple of hands a shot, but I should have known better.

BTW, I've been told to dump bad AA hands. I didn't do it, but I wanted to find out what the consensus was on this type of hand. Now I know. Definitely should have known better than to post here, though. Amazing how nice the posters in live no limit are compared to you guys. Maybe the variance has just worn you down.

I must admit, the first few posters were helpful, as was Roman. However, I don't understand why you would defend monox's post? What is the point of that post? How is it supposed to help me? Heck, I don't even know what it means.

(Unfortunately, I do read posts like that in this forum quite often. Sad. Some of you are great. Too bad so many have to be so rude.)

Lesson one when on the internet: Don't be offended by stuff on the internet.

to be fair, you posted an extremely basic small stakes hand on a high stakes forum, and then instead of thanking posters that are still helpful you are criticizing people that are rightly annoyed by it

I think he has a point, though. There are a decent number of posters in this forum that seem to provide very little content and are really just nothing but annoying douches.

I am also pretty new, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I think your limp is fine in a live game. In the live games I have played a pot-sized open will usually get called by at least half the table, which isn't really desirable with raggedy AAxx, IMO. Personally I don't mind limping to top set mine or re-raising if we can get the majority enough of our stacks in pre-flop to see the flop with an SPR around 1 or less.

This is a really clear 4! as played. It is really hard for you to be in bad shape here. Play around with an odds calculator and see for yourself:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tool..****ulator/omaha

Pretty much the worst case is that he has some super-premium double-suited AA with another pair or something and you still have 42% equity. This is super rare though and you are usually at least a slight favorite against his GII range here.

There are better ones out there that allow you to input ranges. Maybe someone else can post a link.

drumdideldum

This isn't a forum for novices. And if you read the appropriate forum regularly, you'll see your question being asked once a week.