Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Other Poker > High Stakes PL Omaha

Notices

High Stakes PL Omaha Discussion of 2/4 and above pot-limit Omaha poker

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-24-2012, 01:38 PM   #1
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 72
6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

Playing the GUKPT Bolton series last week, and omaha cash when I was out of the tournaments. Game has been subdued all week, and we are short-handed on the last night with two of the regs I've played with all week and one unknown.

I'm in for £1k, my first £500 bullet went pretty quick, but I've ran my 2nd into ~£2300. Stacks are; SB 1K, me £2300, straddle £770, btn covers all. My image is loose, v. aggressive, will hero call fairly light (looked up rivers with both straights and sets on 3flush boards for big bets).

Hand is single-straddled, btn (fairly good aggro player) opens 16, we all call, I have T98764 with 2 suits in the BB.

Pot £72

Flop is 864r, with two of my backdoor flush draws.

Check, I lead for pot (I prefer taking the lead in 6card, but is it questionable leading for pot here?). Straddle snap repots for £300 (rounded up) total. BTN and SB fold.

Reads are; villain would not pot the bare 75xxxx hand here, and thus most likely has 975xxx or 75xxxx with a set (I would tend to believe he has 975xxx more often than a set considering Ive flopped three pairs).

Question; Given my line, what should my action be? Villain has £470 remaining.
GARY888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 02:45 PM   #2
centurion
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 164
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

is this real life? get it in kid
look at me now is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 02:55 PM   #3
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
urubu111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: braziliand
Posts: 6,162
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

if turn is a J, your draw is from Q to 4. LOL.
urubu111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 03:00 PM   #4
centurion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 145
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

You have no FE in rejamming. Fold if turn is a 4. Call if anything else.

Edit: Didn't see you had a 4. Lol why is this even a thread.

Last edited by lamma404; 07-24-2012 at 03:16 PM.
lamma404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 03:04 PM   #5
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
krmont22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Buenos Aires
Posts: 7,475
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

I guess you could discuss this if you were 5000 deep. At this depth, this thread is a joke, but I am entertained by the idea of 6 card plo flopping 3 pair and a full wrap.
krmont22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 04:04 PM   #6
newbie
 
rolfus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 49
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

Quote:
Originally Posted by urubu111 View Post
if turn is a J, your draw is from Q to 4. LOL.
Made me chuckle
rolfus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 04:12 PM   #7
newbie
 
rolfus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 49
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

So I tried to do a bit of equity calculation but had to bring it down to 5 cards (as I used ProPokerTools)

ProPokerTools 5-Card Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 864
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Td9d8h7h649.06% 230,141128,405
975xx50.94% 241,454128,405

ProPokerTools 5-Card Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 864
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Td9d8h7h643.80% 252,95419,693
8875x56.20% 327,35319,693

ProPokerTools 5-Card Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 864
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Td9d8h7h658.74% 331,42442,090
75xxx41.26% 226,48642,090

Seems like you should just get it in with a SPR of 10 as
A) It's live and however good a read you think you have villain could just have 75xxxx and your favourite against that
B) Worst case you have about 40% equity
C) Your up more than £700 for the night so your freerolling

Also don't donk bet pot/fold this hand!!
rolfus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 04:56 PM   #8
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 72
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

Villain 100% does not have have the bare 75xxxx. He has shown down the nut straight with AK on AKQhhx 3 ways after flatting IP on flop AND turn w/ 1.5k effective stacks. This deep, if villain had no redraws at all with his hand (75xxxx) I think he would probably fold (imo correctly) to my lead.

My query is, should I just be rejamming with 0% FE here, or just call flop/call any turn/folding a blank turn that doesnt give me a FD? I did some PPT numbers w/ 5-card equity and it seemed a really close decision, and without a 6-card calculator available I wondered if I was going to be a favourite at all (vs 975xxx+ range)
GARY888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 05:22 PM   #9
newbie
 
rolfus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 49
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

If my maths is correct your getting 43.3% pot odds so based on equity calcs above I would say yes
rolfus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 05:27 PM   #10
newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 20
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

Gary, quit poker.
rubylovesnuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 05:32 PM   #11
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 72
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

Quote:
Originally Posted by rubylovesnuts View Post
Gary, quit poker.
Ok, done
GARY888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 05:39 PM   #12
grinder
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 453
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

like leading, when it comes back around anything other than jamming is a pretty huge error.
validand notinuse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 05:56 PM   #13
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 72
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

Quote:
Originally Posted by validand notinuse View Post
like leading, when it comes back around anything other than jamming is a pretty huge error.
Ty (and rolfus) for your constructive feedback
GARY888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2012, 09:11 PM   #14
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
krmont22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Buenos Aires
Posts: 7,475
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

folding with bare 57 would be pretty awful too (i know bare 57 is almost impossible)

There is 2,3,J,Q,K,A that are all safe and he can get his money in over any bet.
krmont22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2012, 04:43 AM   #15
PokerStars veteran rookie
 
Lee Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Watching the TT
Posts: 1,957
Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world

Quote:
Originally Posted by krmont22 View Post
folding with bare 57 would be pretty awful too (i know bare 57 is almost impossible)

There is 2,3,J,Q,K,A that are all safe and he can get his money in over any bet.
Good, I was thinking the same thing. Even if I had the "bare" 75 (I mean, what, my other four cards are blank?), I'd peel a turn. If it doesn't change the nuts (which is about the most you can hope for in six-card PLO), then I get the money in real good.

Regards, Lee
Lee Jones is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive