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07-24-2012, 01:38 PM
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enthusiast
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6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
Playing the GUKPT Bolton series last week, and omaha cash when I was out of the tournaments. Game has been subdued all week, and we are short-handed on the last night with two of the regs I've played with all week and one unknown.
I'm in for £1k, my first £500 bullet went pretty quick, but I've ran my 2nd into ~£2300. Stacks are; SB 1K, me £2300, straddle £770, btn covers all. My image is loose, v. aggressive, will hero call fairly light (looked up rivers with both straights and sets on 3flush boards for big bets).
Hand is single-straddled, btn (fairly good aggro player) opens 16, we all call, I have T98764 with 2 suits in the BB.
Pot £72
Flop is 864r, with two of my backdoor flush draws.
Check, I lead for pot (I prefer taking the lead in 6card, but is it questionable leading for pot here?). Straddle snap repots for £300 (rounded up) total. BTN and SB fold.
Reads are; villain would not pot the bare 75xxxx hand here, and thus most likely has 975xxx or 75xxxx with a set (I would tend to believe he has 975xxx more often than a set considering Ive flopped three pairs).
Question; Given my line, what should my action be? Villain has £470 remaining.
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07-24-2012, 02:45 PM
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centurion
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
is this real life? get it in kid
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07-24-2012, 02:55 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
if turn is a J, your draw is from Q to 4. LOL.
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07-24-2012, 03:00 PM
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centurion
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
You have no FE in rejamming. Fold if turn is a 4. Call if anything else.
Edit: Didn't see you had a 4. Lol why is this even a thread.
Last edited by lamma404; 07-24-2012 at 03:16 PM.
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07-24-2012, 03:04 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
I guess you could discuss this if you were 5000 deep. At this depth, this thread is a joke, but I am entertained by the idea of 6 card plo flopping 3 pair and a full wrap.
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07-24-2012, 04:04 PM
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
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Originally Posted by urubu111
if turn is a J, your draw is from Q to 4. LOL.
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Made me chuckle
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07-24-2012, 04:12 PM
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newbie
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
So I tried to do a bit of equity calculation but had to bring it down to 5 cards (as I used ProPokerTools)
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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| Td9d8h7h6 | 49.06% | 230,141 | 128,405 | | 975xx | 50.94% | 241,454 | 128,405 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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| Td9d8h7h6 | 43.80% | 252,954 | 19,693 | | 8875x | 56.20% | 327,353 | 19,693 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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| Td9d8h7h6 | 58.74% | 331,424 | 42,090 | | 75xxx | 41.26% | 226,486 | 42,090 |
Seems like you should just get it in with a SPR of 10 as
A) It's live and however good a read you think you have villain could just have 75xxxx and your favourite against that
B) Worst case you have about 40% equity
C) Your up more than £700 for the night so your freerolling
Also don't donk bet pot/fold this hand!!
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07-24-2012, 04:56 PM
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
Villain 100% does not have have the bare 75xxxx. He has shown down the nut straight with AK on AKQhhx 3 ways after flatting IP on flop AND turn w/ 1.5k effective stacks. This deep, if villain had no redraws at all with his hand (75xxxx) I think he would probably fold (imo correctly) to my lead.
My query is, should I just be rejamming with 0% FE here, or just call flop/call any turn/folding a blank turn that doesnt give me a FD? I did some PPT numbers w/ 5-card equity and it seemed a really close decision, and without a 6-card calculator available I wondered if I was going to be a favourite at all (vs 975xxx+ range)
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07-24-2012, 05:22 PM
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newbie
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
If my maths is correct your getting 43.3% pot odds so based on equity calcs above I would say yes
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07-24-2012, 05:27 PM
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newbie
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
Gary, quit poker.
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07-24-2012, 05:32 PM
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
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Originally Posted by rubylovesnuts
Gary, quit poker.
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Ok, done
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07-24-2012, 05:39 PM
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grinder
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
like leading, when it comes back around anything other than jamming is a pretty huge error.
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07-24-2012, 05:56 PM
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
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Originally Posted by validand notinuse
like leading, when it comes back around anything other than jamming is a pretty huge error.
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Ty (and rolfus) for your constructive feedback
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07-24-2012, 09:11 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
folding with bare 57 would be pretty awful too (i know bare 57 is almost impossible)
There is 2,3,J,Q,K,A that are all safe and he can get his money in over any bet.
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07-25-2012, 04:43 AM
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PokerStars veteran rookie
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Re: 6-card PLO, £2/£2 4 handed - flop the unmade world
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Originally Posted by krmont22
folding with bare 57 would be pretty awful too (i know bare 57 is almost impossible)
There is 2,3,J,Q,K,A that are all safe and he can get his money in over any bet.
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Good, I was thinking the same thing. Even if I had the "bare" 75 (I mean, what, my other four cards are blank?), I'd peel a turn. If it doesn't change the nuts (which is about the most you can hope for in six-card PLO), then I get the money in real good.
Regards, Lee
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