So just a bit of context to the hand, It is 5 handed with 3 older gentlemen and myself and another young guy who are at the table.

They had been playing together for awhile now but I have only been sitting down for about 30 minutes and it was the last hand of the night before the two PLO tables were combining.

We are playing 5/5 PLO with 240BB ($1200) eff, the villian in the hand is playing with 3000bb ($15k stack - run good mofo).

Hand

A K 4 5

UTG (Villan) raises to $15
MP Calls
BU (HERO) Calls
SB Calls
BB Calls

Flop ($75)

4 10 7

Checks through to me

*Thoughts here on betting? we can barrell every turn and river, we have only bottom pair with no real chance of improving our hand on later streets .

I check

Turn ($75)

K

Blinds Check
UTG bets $65
MP Calls

Hero??

Interested to know how we play this. I kinda didnt really like any option here. Folding seems possibly too weak as I feel MP leads set's on flop and UTG was betting combo draws on the flop. So I feel often here he has just picked up spades / combo draws, maybe two pairs. But MP feels like he has a weak draw.

So I decided to raise to $260.

I think my two pair is good here to get value from draws plus i block KK which makes sense for him to check flop and bet the turn. Also i need to protect as I dont have any blockers in my hand or QJ's for draws. I also potentially fold out K7xx maybe K10xx if they are bad enough.

Blinds fold

UTG takes a minute and repots moving me essentially all in

MP folds.

Now... WTF do you do?

Problem i was thinking through was that when i call and i am ahead, im dodging massive draws. When i call and i'm behind.. im dead.

I would just call the turn for this very reason. As played, fold.

As played I'm folding. No reason to ship and pray they're drawing AND miss.
As you said, he they have a made hand you are virtually dead.

As played fold.

Maybe its nitty but I'm folding to the turn bet. We just don't know where we are in the hand and 95% of rivers will be bad for us.

I'd like to call based on the strength of the hand, but any heart, any spade, and literally any card other than a offsuit 2 completes a draw. Villains range includes virtually all the possible draws. Its highly likely he's holding 2 spades + several strait and/or heart outs. A hand like 9965hhss wouldn't be surprising at all. So unless we fill up we're folding to a river barrel on almost any river, and calling turn just hoping for a river check/check isn't going to be profitable.

Raising would be the second choice behind fold. We may have some fold equity here since we're blocking a K and suspicious of villains line, but imo probably not enough given hes betting into 4 people on an extremely draw heavy board. So easy fold if we get re-raised. If he calls we're usually hoping to dodge a ton of river outs and check/check the river and realize our equity, but if he calls turn and leads river its an easy fold there too.

I would definitely bet the flop when checked to and holding the Ace of hearts blocker.

As played, I think turn is close between calling and folding. If we are calling it is with the intention of turning our hand into a bluff on hearts. Otherwise we should just fold it imho.

Nah just stick it in on the turn, you're probably good...I mean cammmaaannnnnn of course it's an f'ing fold

you realize villain only has 4 cards as well, right? it´s not we are playing 12 card omaha here

btw, your third option would be my preferred one

Lol. The point is we have no idea what cards hit his draws. We're very much in the dark and there's really not a single river card that would make us happy to call if he leads. Even if the river is something like 3c, 9d, or 2d and he pots it are we calling? Those would all be pretty heroic.

So it looks like we're just calling the turn hoping to check it down or maybe turn our hand into a bluff on a heart. I doubt that's going to be +EV.

we likely have enough equity to call the turn, and it´s not like i´m concerned with leads on different rivers just yet. we also have position.
folding is ok, but imo we got enough equity to call.
raise/folding is stupid, raise/calling even worse, it´s between call and fold, in my humble opinione call>fold, but raising is my least preferred action. by quite a bit...

Calling turn for sure.. Two people ahead of us I think we can play rivers perfectly and gauge our River bluffs on hearts and also pick off bluffs since our range is very draw heavy and we can call off on brick rivers

Cheers for the feedback, i Raise folded that turn.

i like calling here and picking off river bluffs.

The thing with these young kids is, they come to the live table thinking they are the man, because they have played 10000 hands of poker online and won a some pocket money.

These pricks run like god winning every pot and always running their stack to 15k, I mean even my friend Frank Nitlol who has played way before these young kids were even born, never got his stack to 15k, R.I.P Frank.

So this mother****er obviously thinks he is some boy genius like durrr, I would put him on 4567 because thats the hand those young kids love to play, he obviosly checked the flop to check-raise, and now on the turn when he sees you raising the turn after checking back flop, there is no way he thinks hes two-pair is not good here and jams for value. Luckily for us this is OMAHA, and our big slick AK also has 54, therefore bigger twopair and a snap-call.

But I'm glad you folded, because the river obviously would have been some stupid 3, these mother****ing youngsters always hit their draws, I almost cant believe it, rigged.

Not sure if your trolling me here mate or not.. haha

Turn raise is good but if you're going to make it effectively pot you're better off announcing pot and throwing in the 2 extra bb, fold to his shove.

Cool story, bro.

Just so you know, you can't CSB a troll post you thought was serious without looking like an idiot.

I enjoyed it, b4dger

How young was this kid?

didnt even have its teeth