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Old 05-24-2012, 05:46 PM   #1
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5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

The game is 5/5 PLO 1000 min no max buy in. It happened about two months ago but I've recently started playing a lot more PLO and want some insight on the hand.

The game: Wild and crazy game I had 4500 into the game and this hand happens at 11:00 am after we went all night. 6 or 7 handed. Effective stacks are right around 5500.

Hero: Young guy been drinking all night. Left the game at 4am to go roll craps and came back at 9am and bought back in with same villains basicially. I am an inexperienced PLO player but they don't know that, I think. Sitting right around 5500.

Main Villain: Have seen him only show value hands that are sets or better. Thinking player but haven't seen him get out of line once. Was talking about bluff raising one hand but never seen it at all. He has over 10000 in front and covers everyone.

On to the hand: I get AAK4 UTG. (straddle is on). I pot it for 40. Villain on button calls and straddle calls.

pot(170) flop is K410
Straddler checks. I bet pot 170. Get called in both spots.

pot(680) Turn is 5 Straddler bets 100. I pot it for a total of 880. Villain now repots for a total of around 3500.

Is this a call here??
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:59 PM   #2
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

If straddler calls folding is out of the question, but I will assume he folded. I've been in some games that this has to be a set. But this guy doesn't sound like that. Lots of wraps with diamond you're crushing he would bet here. I have also played with players who would strongly consider folding less than top set here. Certainly top two. Shove. Lots of other factors come into it such as how would he play a set on the flop. Shove. Never in horrible shape. Shove.

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:30 PM   #3
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

You can always call turn and use blockers on the river.

As played fold
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:34 AM   #4
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

pot (680).

Villain now repots for a total of around 3500.

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Lots of wraps with diamond you're crushing he would bet here.
^ lol o rly
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:02 AM   #5
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If straddler calls folding is out of the question, but I will assume he folded. I've been in some games that this has to be a set. But this guy doesn't sound like that. Lots of wraps with diamond you're crushing he would bet here. I have also played with players who would strongly consider folding less than top set here. Certainly top two. Shove. Lots of other factors come into it such as how would he play a set on the flop. Shove. Never in horrible shape. Shove.
top and bottom pair +fd. 1000bb on the turn. ooooookay then...
would be a tough spot even with TT...
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:02 AM   #6
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

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top and bottom pair +fd. 1000bb on the turn. ooooookay then...
would be a tough spot even with TT...
I am with you on this. We are super deep and your only bet sizing is POT POT... You dont need to bet pot OTF and you for sure do not need to raise POT on the turn. I would have flat with a player left to act. Then call a raise if the hand went that way.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:15 AM   #7
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

definitely a fold as played now, but real curious to see more peoples opinion on what to do after his weak 100 turn lead. definitely feel we are ahead of this kind of blocking bet that wants to see a cheap river a lot of the time, but getting 3bet here we are in just such bad shape so often.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:24 AM   #8
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

how much does the straddler have? What does this $100 bet mean?

The more I read this, I like to flat the weak lead but tank bc even if the other guy pots it and the straddler calls then were in for sure.

Also, is it possible that the straddler bets to induce crazy action? What did the straddler do in this hand? Its his action and you didnt post. You just skipped from villian to hero without the other players action.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:26 AM   #9
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

perfct if u fold
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:36 PM   #10
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perfct if u fold
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:57 PM   #11
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

I'm guessing villain has 10s without much of a redraw play and the 5d turn scared him so he's trying to end the hand there. Especially if he's been showing primo hands. KK and 44 are less likely obv, but still within the realm of possibility. Don't see him with 55 hardly ever. I'm folding.
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:15 PM   #12
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Re: 5/5 PLO lost on what to do.

You've displayed nothing but strength at every opportunity and he still repotted you. What do you think he has?
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:21 PM   #13
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i would really like to know how much the straddler has here. if he is deep too, i would personally flat the turn.
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:00 PM   #14
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villain and straddler colluding.

please report
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:20 PM   #15
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villain and straddler colluding.

please report
Lol +1
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