The game is 5/5 PLO, $200-$1000.

Hero SB (~$800) is a mid to late 20's white guy. My image might be a bit aggro due to me playing aggressively against another loose player at the table, but other than that I should appear solid.

Villain UTG+1 (covers) is also a mid to late 20's white guy. We've only been playing for about an hour, but Villain seems solid/aggressive. Two times so far he has played big straight draws aggressively, raising pot over bets both times. Other than that, I haven't seen much from him.

Hero is dealt: A865

Pre-flop:
Villain raises to $20, MP calls, Hero calls from the SB, BB calls.

Flop ($80): A88
Hero is fist to act and...?

What is the most profitable line we can take here? General game plan for this hand?

We check and see wtf happens next?

Hero checks, BB checks, Villain bets $45, MP folds, Hero..?

Being newish to PLO, I was sort of wondering what other players think about our general game plan in this situation, what we expect to happen and what the most profitable line is.

Pretty clear c/call 3 streets, dont see much merit in raising unless vilain really sucks. If he checks turn then lead river obv

Agreed. Can't get paid leading on flop and leading turn after C/C flop is just odd

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Hero calls $45.

Turn ($170): K
Hero checks, Villain bets $90, Hero calls.

River ($350) 4
Hero checks, Villain bets $250, Hero..?

Is there any merit in folding here? There's no really subtle way to ask this without heavily suggesting that I called and lost to AA, which I did... But yeah... Are we ever folding?

Always depends...I always ask myself, is this guy capable of bluffing 3 streets with non value hands? Is he overvaluing something worse? If the answer is no no...fold. For the most part I think it's a call and just write it off as a cooler

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for me its largely a fold otr since there is not much you can beat . Turn is also a nice card for his range and I don't see him 3 barrel some weird hand like that utg+1.


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Raise and rep quads imo

Nah seriously this is so villain dependent that there's not a single sane thing to say about this.

Also I always like the 'white guy' descriptions in these kinda hands, keep racially profiling guys

I usually specify that they are white, so that way the readers know that they are at least somewhat sane and aren't just going nuts for no reason, like some other races might... lol.

Lol @ people saying fold this after results are posted.

Pretty sure we cant fold gto wise.

But with good reads we can.

C/c flop and turn, possibly bet half pot on river and fold to a raise?

With that many players, bet the flop (pot or close to). You can better gauge what's going on after betting. If you check, you could end up losing to 9-9 10-10 J-J etc with a free/cheap card on the turn. If someone has an 8, you'll get paid (barring quads and tie) and if someone has AA, well you got coolered and you can slow down the betting on the turn if they reraise your flop lead.


Crucial to bet the flop though. If it was heads-up, maybe slow it, but if they catch an over-pair (8) on turn or the river, it's money lost. And if they put you on a-8, they will max squeeze it out of you.

There is merit for folding to the big bet on the river. The reason being is, solid player raised pre-flop with A and K on the board (possible AA-KK). You have to pay attention to how confident the player is or if they are trying to give off false tells through out the betting and reaction on the flop. That's why betting the flop is crucial. You can get more info by who calls and how. If he smooth calls the flop, you're probably in big trouble. And you can have a better notion to fold later. But by checking the flop, you left yourself in the dark. The K on the turn is a horrendous card because villain could have easily been betting AKK? on the flop as well. The tiny FH is how profiting players make their money in this game. You have to recognize and at times respect these solid players because they are the most usual suspects of having the nuts.

surely you are not uncertain as to your own age?

He has to play a balanced age range. Sometimes he looks older, sometimes he looks younger (or feels older/younger )

Generally speaking, I don't think you're going to lose much in PLO if you never fold the third nuts to an unknown after check calling two streets. Plus, someone might think like KQJ8 is the nuts here since so many live players would donk or x/r the flop to "see where they're at".

as played call flop and turn and fold river. your hand becomes bluff catcher OTR and you said villain is solid. Don't think hes bluffing OTR after you call twice