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09-12-2014 , 07:03 PM
not sure if 5-5 plo is deemed high stakes, this is my first post here.
i played a hand and i'm not sure if i played it well or not, wondering what you guys think....

played 5-5 plo at bogata sat down w $1000 (buy ins were 500-2500)

at this point its 7 or 8 handed and the average stack is about $2000
i'm not sure what i started the hand with but i think it was about $1300

I straddle to 10 and got 5 limpers
I pot it to 70 with Ad Kh Qh Js and get 2 callers

flop: As Kd 2d

I'm first to act and check
next guy bets 130
other guy folds
I rr to 350 he calls

turn: T h

I shove for 850 ish and he calls

we ran it twice Js hits first river and Kc hits second river

he said I filled up and I regreted it but I said the same b4 he fliped his cards
I showed he mucked but im assuming he flopped a set of douces

if I didn't hit a diamond, A, K, Q, J or T on the turn I was gona shut down

did I play it bad on the flop?
by rr him on the flop after potting pre I figured he'd have to put me on aces or at least an A high flush draw, i was playing very tight prior to this hand.

what you guys think?
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09-12-2014 , 07:54 PM
So are you saying that if the 7 of clubs comes OTT you are check/folding?
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09-12-2014 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hakuba07
So are you saying that if the 7 of clubs comes OTT you are check/folding?
ok maybe i'm not check folding but i wouldnt have potted it

idk cuz its not like i really have a diamond draw i just have the blocker
T is the only card that gives me a str8
anything else is just a bluff

what do u guys think of my rr on the flop

n what would u do if 7c hit the turn

/e im kinda new to plo and never played 5-5 b4 this.. usually play 1-2.. im trying to learn.. even though i won the whole pot id like to know if i played it bad or not

Last edited by T00MZ; 09-12-2014 at 08:01 PM. Reason: adding info
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09-12-2014 , 11:29 PM
You have the nuts on the turn, correct?
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09-13-2014 , 12:41 AM
Bogata has 5-5 PLO? Booking my flight now..
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09-13-2014 , 07:12 AM
If the 7c comes you have 10 outs to the nut straight and 4 to the boat.

Plus he could just play like that a worse 2 pair, a straight draw like yours, a low set he could fold, a flush draw.

Put all this hands in his range and calculate.

Always remember that against a set we still have close to 30% equity plus some fold equity.

Only hand that really crushes us is set+FD.

Given our blockers he would have set of deuces and in that case we still have AAKK and all the non-diamond str8 cards. (7 if I'm not wrong)

Total of 11 outs agains the worst possible situation for a total of about 23%.
The pot is 1200ish and you bet 850 to win a total of 2900.

That percentage is still close to 23% so it would be only a slight mistake to GII against set of deuces + FD OTT.

I'm not great at the game so see what others think.
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09-13-2014 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen
You have the nuts on the turn, correct?
yes but im lookin to know if i played my hand badly on the flop or if i dont hit the nuts on the turn wat would the right move be... considering the size of the pot and my stack size
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09-13-2014 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hakuba07
If the 7c comes you have 10 outs to the nut straight and 4 to the boat.

Plus he could just play like that a worse 2 pair, a straight draw like yours, a low set he could fold, a flush draw.

Put all this hands in his range and calculate.

Always remember that against a set we still have close to 30% equity plus some fold equity.

Only hand that really crushes us is set+FD.

Given our blockers he would have set of deuces and in that case we still have AAKK and all the non-diamond str8 cards. (7 if I'm not wrong)

Total of 11 outs agains the worst possible situation for a total of about 23%.
The pot is 1200ish and you bet 850 to win a total of 2900.

That percentage is still close to 23% so it would be only a slight mistake to GII against set of deuces + FD OTT.

I'm not great at the game so see what others think.

but scare cards dont matter on the river if all the money goes in the turn

are you saying i should still shove on a 7c turn?
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09-13-2014 , 09:03 AM
I'm saying that.

Check with others though.
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09-13-2014 , 10:14 AM
trivially easy shove on any non-diamond turn imo, i think whole hand wp, lead flop def a viable alternative, but i don't mind c/r + depending on tendencies of players could be best option
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09-13-2014 , 01:57 PM
I'm shoving every turn cept 3 4 or 5os probably. Surprised people rnt shoving a diamond turn with ad... Seems fairly exploitable
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09-13-2014 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hakuba07
If the 7c comes you have 10 outs to the nut straight and 4 to the boat.
I just see top 2p and a gutshot or did I miss sth?!
However easy shove turn.
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09-13-2014 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tmckendry
Bogata has 5-5 PLO? Booking my flight now..
Thought you were already there
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09-14-2014 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99
I'm shoving every turn cept 3 4 or 5os probably. Surprised people rnt shoving a diamond turn with ad... Seems fairly exploitable
i said i was shoving any diamond on the turn
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09-14-2014 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99
I'm shoving every turn cept 3 4 or 5os probably. Surprised people rnt shoving a diamond turn with ad... Seems fairly exploitable
A is worth something but isn't all that relevant considering that w/ spr on turn most live players prob calling w/ any flush. I would much rather shove an offsuit 3-5 than a diamond
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09-14-2014 , 10:24 AM
Raise more flop when donked to : you have a very strong hand (top 2 + gutshot) but very vulnerable.
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09-14-2014 , 03:04 PM
Bet flop. As played why are you shoving a Q or J turn?
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