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5-5 deep, 2nd nuts on the turn with nut blocker, puke spot 5-5 deep, 2nd nuts on the turn with nut blocker, puke spot

07-06-2015 , 03:53 PM
Game is at a casino - 5-5 PLO with 10 straddle UTG almost every hand. Hero does not have many hands with villain but understands that villain is a very dangerous/skilled player, best at the table clearly, the only person to avoid getting in big pots with. Villain has not been very active, playing a bit on the tight end.


Hero: ~4k (button)
Villain: ~1900 (sb)

PF: 9 handed. A is exposed face up. Straddle is on. 1 fold, limped around by the rest of the table. I limp with K1022

Flop ($80): 27K rainbow. Villain leads for 75. Folded around to Hero who calls

Turn: ($230): 27KK 4 suit board. Villain pots $230. Hero Raises to $500. Villain takes about 12 seconds and pots to 1730 virtually all in. Hero....???

Holding a K in my hand and considering only 1 combo of K7, is this ever a fold? Considering hero can call the flop in position with any big K, villain who is a good player could recognize this and surely want to get the money in holding worse than K7 (any combo of 77xx) thinking hero caught a third K with danglers.

Input is being asked for post flop play and hopefully no comments about why I'm playing this hand to begin with. (remember, A exposed PF)


thank you
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07-06-2015 , 04:47 PM
All I'm going to jump in and say is that people love to lead two pair hands multiway on flops when OOP

And I think raising turn is silly if you're not planning to gii. If you don't want to gii then just call turn and call a river bet. Bet river yourself if checked to if you just call turn. See, smooth sailing.
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07-07-2015 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SnapPot
Game is at a casino - 5-5 PLO with 10 straddle UTG almost every hand. Hero does not have many hands with villain but understands that villain is a very dangerous/skilled player, best at the table clearly, the only person to avoid getting in big pots with. Villain has not been very active, playing a bit on the tight end.


Hero: ~4k (button)
Villain: ~1900 (sb)

PF: 9 handed. A is exposed face up. Straddle is on. 1 fold, limped around by the rest of the table. I limp with K1022

Flop ($80): 27K rainbow. Villain leads for 75. Folded around to Hero who calls

Turn: ($230): 27KK 4 suit board. Villain pots $230. Hero Raises to $500. Villain takes about 12 seconds and pots to 1730 virtually all in. Hero....???

Holding a K in my hand and considering only 1 combo of K7, is this ever a fold? Considering hero can call the flop in position with any big K, villain who is a good player could recognize this and surely want to get the money in holding worse than K7 (any combo of 77xx) thinking hero caught a third K with danglers.

Input is being asked for post flop play and hopefully no comments about why I'm playing this hand to begin with. (remember, A exposed PF)


thank you
a) fold pre
b) sitout pre
c) if you didnt do above, vamoo it in ott.
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07-07-2015 , 04:41 PM
Your alias is 'SnapPot' and you're considering a fold here? disgusting
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07-08-2015 , 04:53 AM
I don't mind the over limp OTB but really hate your turn raise as it a accomplishes very little IMO vs a good/thinking player.
I'd probably call flop, call turn and depending on sizing plan on calling some rivers.
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07-08-2015 , 03:20 PM
I think it's a call otr..unless I'm mistaken you only need to be ~35% for it to be a profitable call and if you're behind you still have 3 outs
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07-09-2015 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by apo5tol
Your alias is 'SnapPot' and you're considering a fold here? disgusting
this.

also what someone else said, raising to fold ott is strange. either call ott, or be prepared to get it in.

only hand you're hoping to see is AKQJ i guess, it that or K7.
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07-09-2015 , 11:18 PM
meh happens all the time in plo.. u need to call here but don't raise unless the villain is shove happy and gets it in light
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07-10-2015 , 05:29 PM
pretty sure i've never seen villain show up w/o the nuts in spots like this unless he was pretty simple thinking... its 8handed limped preflop and 200 bigs go in. Pretty sure even sevens full would be essentially a bluff for him. He would have to have like akqx or something and that would be kinda spewy given your sizing as he would prob just flat
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