Sitting on 2kish. Villian is on direct left, been opening a lot. Have a bit of history with him at 10/10nl but not much at PLO. Solid reg however.

Im in the cutoff, theres 2 limps and i have KKJ10hdhd and am about to raise but i see the villian getting ready to raise, so i call the 5, he pops it to 25, 1 call from mid position, i make it 105. He thinks for a second and calls, mp folds.

flop is 88J one h.

I lead 200, he flats.

turn As putting two spades on board.

I bet 400 getting ready to give up at this point if i see any heat as he could definitely have JJ or 8x as hes been pretty wide on the button. He thinks for about 4 seconds and calls.

river Kc.

i do what? Should i have i C/F turn?

If you sized better on the flop, it might've been conceivable for you to b/f river against a solid TAG with the J blocker and stack sizes being what they are.

River is close between a c/c and b/f, we also have the option to go for smaller blocker bets but we might not always want to b/f when we do

Need to know how agressive villain is to decide but I like 250-300

Even though you saw villain was going to raise, that does not mean you should limp, if you raise instead you have a lot of additional information, if he always raises with aaxx and calls you you can rule out that hand and never have to think about folding this river

yeah, id still raise pf. i would bet the riv.

I think river has to start with a bet. He's never going to value bet a worse hand for us, so we're really hoping that he somehow arrived to the river that he feels compelled to bluff with.

If raised. I'm hard pressed to believe that this guy has AA and wouldn't just 4 bet jam pre, so we're only sweating an 88 hand that raised a bunch of limpers? Seems unlikely. I'd probably cry call it off.

Is villain capable of folding an 8 on the turn? If not, I hate that bet.

Don't bet this flop. As played bomb the river.

Wayne Gretzky was "The Great One" because he was always a step or two ahead of everyone. Same applies here. I know it's easy for me to be an armchair quarterback, but if you were to ask yourself before acting PF "what happens if I get 3bet by villain...what if he just calls?" Then you can act almost perfect on all streets in this hand. That K on the river makes it so much more difficult. I'd probably check and call the river though because I just don't think I can get away from this hand.


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if this is a troll post, its so well put together it borders on art. if it isn't, it'd take an octopus to get anywhere close to the appropriate number of facepalms.

I would have raised / called his 3 bet (presuming he makes one) pre.

Flop bet is ok but I would have checked called flop.

River I bet and call a raise.

When he calls your turn bet, he is very strong (JJ/AA/A8). Remember he thinks you might have AA.

I would either bet $600/fold, bet $600/call, check/call or check/fold depending on if I felt like lighting money on fire or not.

PS. I was at your table. You seemed really tight (no offense, I probably did too). I think he folds to an allin unless he has you beat

Hmm - that definitely narrows it. Thanks!

Im normally not tight, but i had Sai and Chris both to my direct left who admittedly are way better at PLO than i am ... i was waiting to go to 10/10NL and should have just waited haha.