Hi,

i am new to the table...don´t have any hands at most people....i felt a bit lost on flop/turn given i donßt play to much 6max ;-)

$5/$5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($103.75) 21bb
tizzl (CO) ($553) 111bb
BTN ($1,326.15) 265bb
SB ($693.75) 139bb
BB ($490) 98bb

Pre-Flop: ($10, 5 players) tizzl is CO 4 3 4 6
1 fold, tizzl raises to $15, BTN calls $15, SB calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: A 10 4 ($50, 3 players)
SB bets $40, tizzl has to make decision #1, BTN folds

Toughts:
I have no idea what his leading range is specifically but i assume its big draws or TT or (seldom because combinatoriks)) AA - i don´t expect to see air here. My position really sucks here so i decided to call flop see what happens behind me and fold to more action (if button wakes up) - i don´t see any point in raising it up (raise folding etc.) - i could convinced it might be a fold but in game i felt thats way to weak...

Turn: 7 ($130, 2 players)
SB bets $100 Hero has 500$ left


I am lost here...no there literally no blank in deck anymore so i feel its a jam or a fold...hell yeah...it seems like i need much more expecrience in 6max ;-)

What you guys think pre/flop/turn?

seems like the easiest jam in the world to me. at very very very worst (bigger set+FD) you even have 7 outs, you beat : top 2 +FD + GS, inside wraps + FD, which you have 60-80% against (too tired to run calcs sorry) and pretty much the only hand you lose to is TT which you have about 20% against on avg.

be interested to see if anyone has any other kind of viewpoint as i mostly play HU so may be well off.

Against randon set we have 11%, against 2pair+fd+gs etc we have roughly 60%, wrap+fd on flop are only a few combos, sets are much more given ciombinatorics. Regards Madehands+ big draws - it hink we can discount a lot given pre action+ flop texture...just some quick numbers...

holy jebus, sorry ive been awake all night and thought you had 4456, for set + open ender. makes it closer for sure, but i still think its a jam.

are there really more combos of sets (if he exclusively had sets in this spot, it would be TT rather than AA 90% of the time,) ?

i still dont know if its classed as close, id be happy to just jam turn always here, hopeful a discussion gets going though to set me straight!

call flop, jam turn. if you're a lot deeper than turn is a call also.

did you suggest folding the flop

call turn and play some poker

Just jam. You'll occasionally be behind, but more often then not, you'll be getting paid by AT or an A with a big flush draw, he'll end up in ****ty spot with a hand like QJTx with J-high hearts or he'll just shrug and fold some sort of weak made hand weak draw combo. You're right that he doesn't ever really have air here, but his range is not as strong as you're making it out to be. He can have semi-airish hands like 1 pair with the naked Kh with or without a broadway gutshot, any kind of A/Paint/Paint, etc. I'd be more than happy to get a 100bb stack in on this turn. AT isn't ever folding, non-naked NFD's aren't folding, Q/J high flush draws with a bit extra will call off sometimes.

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@all regards his turn range:

As i see u guys put villain on combodraws, AT+ besides set which is interessting.

Do we really expect villain to lead QJA with hearts here + combodraws besides the premium ones? Why would he lead a draw mostly (at least non nut) - just saying in my experience (the bit that i have) people seem to lead much morem madehands then non nut combodraws in these spots?

what do you consider doing on the flop, since you have a "decision"?

as palyed jam turn all day long

Seems like this spot is trivial for everybody on flop and turn...which suprises me esp. when i look at some numbers....

SO here´s another question - maybe you can help me out getting a better understanding ur assumptions regards villains range:

Whats the worst made hand/combodraw u put in villains range on flop (turn) -f.e. say dry AT etc...

villain can't have AA or TT?

Of course he can, but that's not the point. If you're scared of shoving here on turn, you have to fold pre-flop.