History: 20 minutes before this I stacked the middle aged black man with AA93ds hearts & diamonds when facing a $30 raise with three limps I potted to $200 in position with $1000 effective, he called, flop 9d6d3h, I bet $450, he called, river 5d, I went allin for $350 and he called with a straight.

10 minutes later I stacked him a second time with KdKcQh7h on a KhJs8h board where he was the pre-flop raiser - six way $300 pot, I bet 250 in position, button called, he check raised to 1250 with about 1500, I had about 1500 myself and went all in, the button folded. He had 88 and I took it down.

Hand: Rock is in the SB. BB limps, middle aged black man (fish) raises to 30. Cutoff raises to $100. I have KsKhQs8d. Initial raiser, CO, and I (button) have effective $2500.

First question: What is the move here? Flat? I'm not raising, is this a flat or fold hand?

I flatted. The rock (sb) folds. BB calls. Initial raiser makes it $200 and says to the CO "I did that so you can pot" - cutoff asks what pot is, then laughs and calls saying "You're mistaking me for one of those guy that only raises with aces". I also call, as well as SB. Don't think there's any other line here. Four way to flop ($805).

Kc7s5s. Checked to me. Obviously I flopped the world.

Option 1 - Bet - If we bet, what is sizing? What are we being called by?

Option 2 - Check - Taking a trap line with a check - But then what do we do on the three turn options:

1. Turn that completes the straight and it is checked to us? Do we bet or check turn? I'm assuming if turn completes straight and someone bets we of course flat.

2. Turn that completes flush (non As) - checked to us - arguments for betting or checking? Assuming if someone leads a spade non As turn we flat.

3. Turn that pairs the board - 5/7 - Flat any bet, we are definitely betting turn at this point correct? Or looking for a jam now that we have the nuts if someone leads river or a $500 bet if checked down?

i assume this is aria

pre is a flat- i want the fish in

def betting the flop probably like half pot

Pre kinda depends, if the initial raiser is very likely to 4b, then im folding, but if not, im flatting.
Post you simply can't check this flop back, betting is only option and im going big. We do have the nuts and want to get value and make draws expensive. Aces with spades is never folding anyway and fish are always sticky.
There are also so many turn cards that we really don't wanna see(non-spade ace, all 9s/8s/6s/4s/3s).

well i guess since co is a then thats gonna change the way we play our hand...

Yea I think in position this is never a check back, that was kind of my main question.

Don't come at me with the racist ****, if you're not changing how you play and assigning different ranges for a man, woman, Asian, black guy, older guy, white grandma, etc then you have a hole in your game. Also the CO wasn't the black guy so maybe read the post correctly.

So if we bet 600 into 800 here we get one call, turn is Ts, checked to us. Check back or bet? 2k pot 1700 effective.

Standard check back and call/bet river

I'd check back and re-evaluate river. Would hate to get raised there having 2nd nuts and boat outs. I'd check back and bomb river if checked to us, otherways would be calling river down unless we improve.

i think this is spot on.

Have to bet in position here. Two options bet $600 and set up a turn jam OR BET $300 and hope you get some dominated hands to call.

Pre entirely depends on how the table's been playing. First instinct against this type of early position raiser is to fold, but that can change depending on how likely he is to 4b, what his 4b sizing is and what the 3better is 3b'ing with. The other thing worth considering is what the max buy in for this game is. I don't wanna play in an inflated pot and be forced to flip with a poorer player when we're $2.5k deep if max buy in is $1k. There will be better spots.

As played, not checking flop. 3 ways and someone who seems to overvalue hands, I'd rather try and play for stacks by betting. Don't need to bet huge, half pot is sufficient. Purely from an exploitative standpoint, I don't hate a larger bet size given that most of the target player's decision making will be whether they have enough to continue or not; sizing should be a less significant factor. Given turn, I check behind and probably call a river bet given your hand is a lot stronger than you've played it. It's not beyond reason that his river value bets could include weaker flushes, even straights if they get there depending on how thin he's value betting. Obviously he's got some bluffs in his range as well.