8 handed.

Hero is short stacking at 900 after losing a few hands

Everyone covers except straddle who has 550

OMC opens UTG to 30. Two calls. Hero next to act has

3457

Hero?

turbomuck?

if you're looking for a fun answer then 3b, gii rebuy full

Call, if there is more action behind you can think about a squeeze

900 isn't really a short-stack unless there are bigger straddles, even if the game is playing deep

5/5/10 effectively plays as big as 5/10 so 900 isnt short at all.

This hand is absolutely a fold in a loose live 8 handed game. Assuming nobody squeezes behind you, you will likely be going 5-8 ways to a flop and this hand very rarely flops well, and on the boards it hits well you will be flopping weak 2ps, dominated flush and straight draws which is going to lose you a lot of money, not to mention you will likely be OOP to half the players in the hand which compounds issues even further.

3betting this hand in my experience is also a mistake as you'll often be cold-called, and the earlier raiser/ callers will almost always come along, defeating the purpose of 3betting which would be to get the pot heads up or 3 way for a situation that makes your hand more playable.

In an 8-10 handed PLO game you should be playing very tight in the earlier positions, choosing only to play hands that have nutted components such as big pairs that flop top set more often, nut suits that flop nut flush draws, high-connected hands that flop dominating straight draws etc. This being because of how often hands go multi-way and the trouble you can get yourself into with non-nutted hands.

Nits ITF lol

Hero raises to 100! Sb flats, bb flats, UTG pots, two folds, hero calls sb calls, bb calls

Flop KJ6

Everyone checks

Turn 7

SB checks, UTG pots, i call sb calls

River 7

Bink

Boy this forum is DEAD.

Boy this poster is RESULTS ORIENTED.

9ive never played in a game where anyone would fold this hand pre...its close between call or raise imo lol...folding is for hold em players

my opinion but turbomuck? are u serious?

This forum is very nitty preflop.

I think raise is fine, fold is fine, call is awful.

I would've potted instead of the raise to 100.

And when OMC pots on the turn, if he pots river I'd assume we're ****ed.

yeah i didnt like calling either but i thought the raise to 100 would prompt some calls before OMC potted his AA. against his actual hand i was 45% since he had bad aces. was sure he would see all AAxx hands as being created equal and liked him for AA the second his nit arse opened UTG

honestly this was my best played hand of the week. i didnt need to pot here, 100 induces and is for pure value

only question i have now is if shove is better than call when action is back on me pf

yeah if I'm looking to put 60% of my stack pf with 3 wheel cards in my hand I always make sure it's at least 4-way

not shoving once everyone checks flop is loltastic

gg wp

Well, the math is quick so may be wrong, but if UTG potted your 100, I think he bet 510. If you're at 900 then you're not reopening the action, so I would've just called hoping the blinds folded. If you repot, the blinds might put you both on Aces, or at least hands that share cards, and then they'd call with hands that hurt our equity.

And yea, with whatever you had behind you should've shoved the flop.

the bet was 540 pre leaving me with 360 in case i completely whiffed

i dunno i got position on the rest of the hand and bb is already ai so not much value in shoving pre...call is ok i think...we can still fold some flops

pre raise>call>fold

fokd is bad imo, expected discussion of call or raise

I think call is worse than fold. Sticking to that

yeah i can dig that...there are sooooo many flops that you are second best with but the price is so cheap...you just have to play really well and not get married to your flushes and straights

In regards to how nitty some players are in the forum's, it's likely because most players come from an online background where high rake and very tough opponents make preflop decisions very important. Myself on the other hand play exclusively live, often in the same kinds of full ring PLO games you play OP and I still stand by my decision that playing this hand in big multi way pots is 100% losing long term.

There's a bbv forum for posts like these where op was never really looking for feedback.

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the math says otherwise, this hand is very close to the nuts vs the action im facing, yet calling isnt as good as raising and folding is a massive mistake imo

ppl can start posting their own hands
the forum is dead live plo is juicy


online plo is another story...prob never get mw action in this spot.. they prob limp utg with the ****ty aces this guy had, but i would have potted over limps anyway and taken my hand hu vs any aa hand...its between 41 and 48%, and i was actually 47% as played not 45

What did everyone else have? I suspect you were thinner than you think (diamonds, str8, other two-pair all beat you )

well i showed down second and the rest didnt show but one of the limpers folded JJxx he couldnt call wirh it thats why calling pre sucks,

not just because of results but because your flushes and straights arent high enough, i wanted to juice it just enough to force OMC to pot and get the middle hands out

sb is a pro, so he prob had 2p otf with straight draw. i peg his range pre at KQT9ds or better most likely a ds rundown, given that and the fact that the flush draw blocks, i think diamonds were absolutely live

bb could have any 4