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08-01-2017 , 03:32 PM

BriMc

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Hero has 89910 no suits. 2200 stack, everyone in the hand covers. MP raises to 40, MP+1 calls, Button Calls, Hero Calls, BB and Straddle fold

Flop (175)

3 9 K Rainbow

MP bets 90, MP + 1 raises to 250. Hero?

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08-01-2017 , 04:45 PM

Javanewt

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If I were any good, I'd fold this.

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08-02-2017 , 02:36 AM

lucaspawpaw16

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even though this hand looks pretty it probably could be dumped with no suits from the Sb for reasons exaclty like this.

Any reads on MP? assuming not at this stage?

AP with no reads on the table i probably fold here. Theres no real safe cards for us to hit or draw to other than a 9. The best case we're against K9, i dont think hes opening with 33 xx

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08-02-2017 , 11:33 AM

BriMc

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Originally Posted by lucaspawpaw16

MP is a reg and a tournament circuit pro, older but not old, proably late 30s early 40s, just got back from the series where he made a deep run in the main (top 100), I've played with him for years, he's a solid PLO player, but not amazing. MP+1 I don't' know as well, but seems loose and aggressive, mid 20s.

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08-02-2017 , 01:56 PM

JB Clark

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He has 33 and KK and there are some combos of K9 in his range and there is a decent overlay. I dont think MP ever overcalls here so peel

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08-02-2017 , 02:37 PM

endodocdc

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How would MP play flop with a range that includes 10JQ Or AA with backdoor suits? Or even a hand like 9TJK? I'm assuming his 1/2 pot betting range isn't limited to just KK?
Mp1 can totally raise with 33 or K9 as well as KK or a wrap.
I don't fault you for folding but I might peel here and obv fold against mp repotting.
I might gii against mp1 on dry turns.

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08-02-2017 , 03:59 PM

JB Clark

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Yeah i would call here to see what MP does. KQJT can play this way too so we beat way too many hands to fold. Also, some ppl might 3b good kk hands pre and this is one board where flatting KK IP might be in villains plans. He doesnt necessarily raise with the nuts on a relatively benign flop. His raise might be weighted to the 3 wrap, so be wary of QJT turns

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08-03-2017 , 01:09 AM

auralex14

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I'm not folding.

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08-07-2017 , 03:29 PM

gtl2p2

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dont fold, dont raise

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08-08-2017 , 05:00 AM

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smoothcriminal99

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uhh wtf is this hand history... not folding flop.... prob just call but sometimes i raise.... really depends on villain. if ur folding the flop to this action just fold preflop and play nittier then you can possibly imagine a nit to play.

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08-11-2017 , 07:04 AM

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VerdantDevil

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fold pre

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08-13-2017 , 03:15 AM

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koolwhynot2

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Call

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08-21-2017 , 11:22 PM

#13

6bet me

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3bet pre.
As played, flat flop and look to put your stack in on any turn card that's not a T, J, Q or K

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08-25-2017 , 12:05 PM

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BriMc

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Originally Posted by 6bet me

3bet pre.
As played, flat flop and look to put your stack in on any turn card that's not a T, J, Q or K

Are you always looking to get it in with middle set for 400+BB on the flop?

In my experience this game is pretty loose passive, so 3 betting from the SB here rarely gets anyone to fold, and just bloats the pot OOP. What makes that a good idea?

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09-01-2017 , 12:54 PM

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De_chopper

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Originally Posted by BriMc

With a SPR of over 12 and MP+1 looking to play a bigger pot this is normally a fold unless you have information to hand that he'll do this with bottom set or top two pair

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09-03-2017 , 06:11 PM

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sauhund

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Originally Posted by 6bet me

3bet pre.
As played, flat flop and look to put your stack in on any turn card that's not a T, J, Q or K

I´m all for trolling, but this is too much.

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