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5-10 live push/pot or VB turn? 5-10 live push/pot or VB turn?

02-03-2013 , 12:37 PM
9-handed one blind min 10 game. Preflop nobody likes folding usually if they limped or opened..
BB: 3k+ (loose/aggr semi-fish)
UTG+1: 1.2k (very tight, average)
CO: 2k+ (loose fish)
Button Hero: 1170 AT83 (pretty tight image at the table til now)

Pre: 6 Limpers, BB raise 40, 6 callers.

Flop (280): K J 4
BB bet 170, fold, UTG+1 calls, fold, fold, CO calls, Hero calls.
Question1: Better push now? No way to win it here imo, and if flush comes a weaker flush pretty sure pays full value...

Turn (960): Q
check, check, check, Hero?

Question2: Stick it in here (exactly 1PSB left) or is the hand 2 good and better valuebet small into those 3 guys?
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02-03-2013 , 07:44 PM
feel like vbetting leaves you with an awk stack size otr so just shove now?
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02-03-2013 , 08:05 PM
You say "shove or value-bet" like if you shove you are bluffing.

And shove obv. If it was heads up on the turn you could consider betting small.
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02-03-2013 , 08:59 PM
easiest shove ever, I don't see a fish folding here with something like a set or T9.

If u are lucky enough, he could call with a KQTx hand or 2pair+fd. In the best case scenario, he calls and sometimes UTG overcall with something like KQ+ big heart FD.
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02-04-2013 , 01:40 AM
Oki, tx guys. I just wanted to hear some more opinions, cause I shoved and they all folded. Then CO asked to see the river and went mad cause it was a small spade and he showed a q-high spade draw, then tight guy said he had top2+bottomstr8 and I felt sick to miss all that cash
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02-04-2013 , 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maver1ck
Oki, tx guys. I just wanted to hear some more opinions, cause I shoved and they all folded. Then CO asked to see the river and went mad cause it was a small spade and he showed a q-high spade draw, then tight guy said he had top2+bottomstr8 and I felt sick to miss all that cash
Know your villain.

In theory, we should be balanced, and shove with a wide range.

But these villains suck, since they fold two pair + small straight to a position shove. Exploit this, and bet 55% of your stack on the turn.

When you need to bluff, bet bigger. Recalibrate if you think they're catching on.
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02-06-2013 , 09:35 AM
All- in, but tell him out loud its really balanced before you do it imo.
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02-06-2013 , 09:11 PM
You know these players better than us, whatever size makes them most likely to call.
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