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5/10 live plo-i block everything but he's betting 5/10 live plo-i block everything but he's betting

09-30-2010 , 01:26 PM
5/10 live rotation game. effective stacks 6kish. my image in the game is probably fairly active, but doubt anyone is paying much attention. SB and BB are loose, talking a bunch and seem to be enjoying themselves. BB lost around 12k over the last 2-3 hours and is spewing. Fairly sure that the table notices that, including the SB.

it was a long night and i don't recall exact preflop action, but there was a limper in EP, people to my immediate left were playing fairly ABC and looked like they were going to fold, i isoed KQ86ds, SB calls, BB and limper call. pot was somehow 325ish.

flop Kd8c6c
blinds check to me. i bet 300 (close to pot). SB and BB call. everyone folds

turn Qh
pot 1250ish

checks to me. i bet 1200. SB thinks for a bit, looks genuinely startled and calls. BB calls much quicker

river 3d
SB leads 1.9k. BB folds.

he looked confident and bet rather fast. i block all sets and not sure how often he shows up with a bluff here, but his line makes no sense to me. my thinking was that if he had a set he would c/r turn with the pot getting big and the BB likely drawing + his river lead is incongruent with his earlier play. if he had a 66/88 and was afraid of being overset, he'd check/call river or let BB or me bluff at it. however, with BB and me left to act i just dont see him bluffing here and i am obv not beating any of his value range so......

Last edited by higher_energy; 09-30-2010 at 01:31 PM.
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09-30-2010 , 01:47 PM
Shoving river as a bluff if u had a few k more would be good, would he blocker bet kq here? Pretty sure he is never bluffing here and being live think you may have to let it go
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09-30-2010 , 01:55 PM
confused= call.
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09-30-2010 , 01:56 PM
call
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09-30-2010 , 04:05 PM
I expect him to never bluff here with these reads.
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09-30-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Try__An__Hit
Shoving river as a bluff if u had a few k more would be good, would he blocker bet kq here? Pretty sure he is never bluffing here and being live think you may have to let it go
i really wanted to and cursed myself for not adding on when people sat down with more money, but with stack sizes it would've been a CIB so i opted out.
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09-30-2010 , 05:08 PM
sigh + call + expect to see a weakly played set.
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09-30-2010 , 05:23 PM
fold w/o reads. fish love waiting until the river to donk sets in live pokerz
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09-30-2010 , 06:34 PM
lol easiest snap call ever?
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09-30-2010 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chinaski101
confused= call.
+1
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10-01-2010 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsajajaja
I expect him to never bluff here with these reads.
What reads?? His reads would suggest a call! You are quickly becoming, in my mind at least, one of the worst posters on the plo boards. I think op beats his value range to be honest.
This looks like a blocking bet with two-pair, or garbage. Set of 3s with ace high flush draw possible. I really don't put him on any other set.

Last edited by Greed0; 10-01-2010 at 12:44 AM.
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10-01-2010 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Greed0
What reads?? His reads would suggest a call! You are quickly becoming, in my mind at least, one of the worst posters on the plo boards. I think op beats his value range to be honest.
This looks like a blocking bet with two-pair, or garbage. Set of 3s with ace high flush draw possible. I really don't put him on any other set.
set of 3's c/c that river. agree with the rest
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10-01-2010 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by milkywaykid
set of 3's c/c that river. agree with the rest
That's based on the assumption that he's afraid of oversets. Logically, a set of 3s would play like this if he isn't afraid of hero having a set. Either way, this is so uncommon that you can't in good conscious fold this hand. You'd have to have a superb read to do so, and we simply can't infer enough to justify a fold. Call.
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10-01-2010 , 02:56 AM
Raising here a ton against someone who makes that kind of lead depending on our image/if they can fold 33. Call is terrible.

He's never betting to induce here, and most players dont expect folds from 2 pair hands. If you keep that in mind it really narrows his range.
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10-01-2010 , 03:02 AM
Shove is good if we're deeper.
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10-01-2010 , 03:02 AM
dont think you can fold its just one of those hands if your beat your beat but you have to call all day
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10-01-2010 , 03:42 AM
wtf easy call. Fish might love slowplaying sets, but not in plo on these boards, and not nearly as much as they like transparently drawing to their draw and bluffing when they miss. He doesn't know he's repping nothing, he's not leveling you with a weird set, he just missed and wants to win. i mean i guess you get shown 888 or QQQ now and then but so many busted draws. caveat i'm not good enough at live poker to know what startled at the turn bet means.

shove is terrible ever
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10-01-2010 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LearnedfromTV
wtf easy call. Fish might love slowplaying sets, but not in plo on these boards, and not nearly as much as they like transparently drawing to their draw and bluffing when they miss. He doesn't know he's repping nothing, he's not leveling you with a weird set, he just missed and wants to win. i mean i guess you get shown 888 or QQQ now and then but so many busted draws. caveat i'm not good enough at live poker to know what startled at the turn bet means.

shove is terrible ever
agree with all of this. dont understand why anyone wants to shove
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10-01-2010 , 08:35 AM
I'd have said the word call before the chips hit the felt, at which point he either rolls over a set, or sits there and flips through his cards for a minute or two while shaking his head, then shows his cards to his neighbor, keeps shaking his head muttering how did I miss this draw before finally mucking
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10-01-2010 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mrw8419
I'd have said the word call before the chips hit the felt, at which point he either rolls over a set, or sits there and flips through his cards for a minute or two while shaking his head, then shows his cards to his neighbor, keeps shaking his head muttering how did I miss this draw before finally mucking
DIDO
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10-01-2010 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chinaski101
confused= call.
+2
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10-01-2010 , 10:52 AM
Call and chop it up imo
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10-01-2010 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Greed0
What reads??
My bad I was reading 2 hands same time and I was looking other reads when commenting.

Anyway you seems to play in Ipoker, if you want to see how my bad advices work in real action you can come challenge me at plo600-1k, i sit in plo hu tables pm for my nick I can also come to play lower (plo100+) up to you.

And I most likely play like I comment here (ofc. adjusting to villain) but should be sick EV+ for you against one of the worst posters here )
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10-01-2010 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsajajaja
My bad I was reading 2 hands same time and I was looking other reads when commenting.

Anyway you seems to play in Ipoker, if you want to see how my bad advices work in real action you can come challenge me at plo600-1k, i sit in plo hu tables pm for my nick I can also come to play lower (plo100+) up to you.

And I most likely play like I comment here (ofc. adjusting to villain) but should be sick EV+ for you against one of the worst posters here )
Sounds like a Solild 2p2 dual. Please log play im thinking you need to play atleast a 4hr session 2 tables min
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10-01-2010 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsajajaja
My bad I was reading 2 hands same time and I was looking other reads when commenting.

Anyway you seems to play in Ipoker, if you want to see how my bad advices work in real action you can come challenge me at plo600-1k, i sit in plo hu tables pm for my nick I can also come to play lower (plo100+) up to you.

And I most likely play like I comment here (ofc. adjusting to villain) but should be sick EV+ for you against one of the worst posters here )
What's your nickname? I think your avatar tilts me more than anything. I play those stakes so maybe we can work out some kind of challenge. I also almost exclusively play hu plo so this could be a lot of fun. Also, HU is way different than 6-max, so I find it interesting you call me out to play hu games.
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