BBV is that way >>>>>>>>

sick spot, if ur view is he only plays his hand value. then the read would imply u have to fold, but his view of you would make me want to call anyway some %.

without the nit read, we always call.

never folding river.

+1

Given that the villain put a dead $25 in without ever given the chance to raise pf I dont discount aaxx out of his range. I also find it hard to fold the river in that spot but given the description of the villain I really don't ever see them not having it there. Not like they are going for thin value with 33 or 77

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crushing the game...

Tough spot. I think we really need to raise this pre, being OOP should make this more of a raise rather than "not wanting to raise with people behind, build a pot, etc."

Since we are now playing blind, and V "plays his hand, is a breakeven/small winner" definitely should have tanked rather than snap.

That being said, and trying not to be results-oriented, I'm not sure I can find a fold either.

I'm shocked villain checked the river with the nuts if he doesn't play creatively. Unless u bet a lot with position.

After reading the first page I decided not to contribute anything useful because of the limp PF.

SHAME ON YOU.

Raise pre, fold flop.

i doubt you have to call with all, if any, combos of AQQ here to prevent villain from exploitably c/r'ing his entire range on this river to make you fold the "nut bluff catcher"... did we forget about having AA?

Do you call with KK9x on QJTr facing a check/raise on 2 streets (and a pot-sized lead on the other?) because it's the "nut bluff catcher?"

I just can't fold here boys

Si

If we are folding the river, why are we calling the x/r otf? Our hand is almost dead against is value range.

River I think is a call, only because players like this will also do this with 77 some of the time, or A77 for sure. Even if he is bluffing like <10% of the time, I've run into enough spots with players who are "just playing their cards" over play some weird hands thinking it's the nuts.


Also if we really think about it, our hand is so underrepresented that he would very easily play A77 or A33 like this. Also note he is in for dead so his range is like 100%, and considering we limped in a pot with dead money he may not put us AA ever, which makes his 77 the nuts because we. Virtually never have QQ or 99

Go and retake second grade math.
Not the same thing at all.
In this scenario there are only 2 aces left in the deck and he most hold both.

Your scenario is not the same at all. V would only need 1 out of the 2 remaining K.

/poker

Not sure if /poker means serious

I would fold the flop. There aren't really any draws that a nitty guy is CR'ing here. Best case is he has A7 too, but in that case he might have 2 live kickers, whereas we have a pair as our other two cards. Nitty players also tend to not like to play big pots against big stacks, so that strengthens his range significantly as well.

it was pointed towards you, as in if you consider them the same thing that should be the end of your poker.

Life is like a box of chocolates

People talk about your hand being under-repped but your hand looks like what it is, though more often it's 77xx, and it's not even that often much worse for value. If it is a bluff you have 654x or something that opponent can c/c a lot of his range again.

Very few players with that description will ever like try to c/r bluff river here because it is so expensive, FOS and very often will be snapped by most players with a lot of value hands.

Obviously against a very good player you need to combat the bluffs here by calling something which AQQ7 is obviously the best with the exception of slowplayed AA.

But realistically a lot of the time people will not see this as a spot to bluff because it just looks weird. He is prob checking tho because he wants you to bluff missed draws and at the same time win a lot from 77 which cant fold

This is really good advice imo, couldn't agree more. # of combos that beat you is kind of irrelevant when villain only plays 1 hand this way.

Doesn't make sense to fold if you called the flop.
If he's nitty enough such that a river fold is right, he's nitty enough that a flop fold is right too. Folding flop looks pretty normal v a scared live nit to me.

If he never has worse on river + is scared to play vs you because your young and have all the money... Then why did you call flop?

The thought that comes to mind here is:

What did you think he had? Does he look like a man beaten by jacks?

You got check-raised on the flop, he pots turns, and check-raises you on the river. Unless this guy is a total maniac or wasted, you're smoked.

AC

I think calling flop is fine with having 2 bdfd. I would never fold there. Otr this is a pretty easy fold vs this player in a live FR game. Especially with sizing looking like it is never a blocker play so even an easier fold imo