5/10 deepstack turn decision on paired board

[dougblazers]

I have never played with villain before today and we have played enough hands 3handed to where i believe he is a decent reg who has the ability to pull off some big moves but it hasn't been proven yet.

Seat 5: villain ($2,280.46 in chips)
Seat 2: villain2 ($3,027.50 in chips)
Seat 1: hero ($3,343.00 in chips)

hero: SB $5.00
villain: BB $10.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [JS 6H 7S 9H]
villain2: Raise To $20.00
hero: Raise To $70.00
villain: Call $60.00
villain2: Call $50.00
*** FLOP *** [8D 6S 6D]
hero: Bet $130.00
villain: Call $130.00
villain2: Fold
*** TURN *** [8D 6S 6D 3S]
hero: Bet $287.00

What do i do if villain puts in a small raise on turn to 630 or something around there? What do i do if villain puts in a big raise to 900+?

[iggymcfly]

Call a small raise, fold to a big one.

[dougblazers]

So you believe a big raise is always a full house and if small raise isn't a full house shouldnt we be jamming turn?

[rand]

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What do i do if villain puts in a small raise on turn to 630 or something around there? What do i do if villain puts in a big raise to 900+?[/QUOTE]


Check the turn, dont player the river like a newb.

[Adebisi]

Originally Posted by dougblazers

So you believe a big raise is always a full house and if small raise isn't a full house shouldnt we be jamming turn?

If he's bluffing, you want to give a chance to put more money in on the river.

[karamazonk]

Villain's range on the flop is wide (you bet $130 into $210, and to him it probably appears to be a good float spot; or, if he has a decent overpair, he could very well think it's good). I think villain's hand rarely includes a six or the overfull - imo it's weighted more towards big pairs since 1) his range pre is strong given preflop action, and 2) you have a 6. If you have anything to worry about, it's most likely 68 or 6A. Not many hands he can call with pre include 88.

Turn bet is fine 3 handed imo, and so is size. After betting turn, I don't think you can fold to a raise. If he does raise, you must just call - you can't reraise b/c you are only getting called by better and your stack should still have about a pot sized bet left behind if you improve to a boat on river. If he just calls on turn, I bet/fold $450ish on most unimproved rivers, bet/call slightly larger amount on improved rivers. If he raises turn, on river I check/fold any unimproving cards (reason to fold being that once you call turn raise and he continues with a river bet, I think it's very rarely a bluff), bet/call any 9 or J.

[bluefingin]

Our hand is so underrepped in this spot I don't think I ever fold to turn raise, regardless of sizing. I also think not shoving over a raise when there is 2 fd's and several sd's is pretty lol, were only 230bb eff and flatting a turn raise just puts us in crazy ugly river spots where it's so much harder to play optimally.

[AB_illusive]

Originally Posted by bluefingin

Our hand is so underrepped in this spot I don't think I ever fold to turn raise, regardless of sizing. I also think not shoving over a raise when there is 2 fd's and several sd's is pretty lol, were only 230bb eff and flatting a turn raise just puts us in crazy ugly river spots where it's so much harder to play optimally.

So if you had a flush draw on the turn and raised hero, he calls, river completes, you'd just jam in your completed flush if he checks?

On to the hand: I'm b/c turn to pretty much any sizing other than pot, and am prepared to give up the river on the first stance. If he hasn't pulled anything big yet, he's not likely to do it in a spot, where hero holds 6x and up.

[IMonkeyTiltsoWhat]

I'd check the turn at first instance.
If he raises big I'm just calling with proper info abt the way he sees me and other stuff related to his tendencies.

For those who are in favor of a b/c OTT, do you guys realize that villain plays extremely well, in position, with that SPR? It's a very tough spot to be with, specially against an above average/good regular.

[yummyham]

Anyone like check raising turn? I think villains flop peel range should be very wide and on a lota turns he will either bet to protect or to semi bluff. I think cr sounds cool

But yeah I'm totally fine betting turn although it'd be gross to face a big raise

[hideYAkids]

i c/c turn vb rivs if it checks thru. most villains here will decide to turn a pair into a bluff or just bet the turn for you in general.. doubt your going for 3 streets and if a bad riv rolls off it smacks u he bluffs/vbs and u x/r, x/c.