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02-26-2010 , 06:36 AM

Doorbread

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Villain is a reg at high stakes and 3betting like 15% since we've been 200+bb deep. He doesn't play back at me much and seems very cautious at this stack depth. He hasn't seen any bluffs and this is the first time I've raised one of his c-bets in a 3b pot.

Full Tilt Poker $1000.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): $2328.50
BB: $2224.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN/SB with J

Hero raises to $30, BB raises to $80, Hero calls $50

Flop: ($160.00) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $90.00, Hero raises to $288.85, BB calls $198.85

Turn: ($737.70) K

(2 players)

Last edited by Doorbread; 02-26-2010 at 06:45 AM.

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02-26-2010 , 07:02 AM

Hattifnatt

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I would check.

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02-26-2010 , 08:44 AM

Zeestein

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check/give up obviously unless you hit something, don't see him trying an oop turn/river bluff

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02-26-2010 , 08:48 AM

Recon20k

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did he check? I'd check behind.

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02-26-2010 , 09:05 AM

Grindin_Nemo

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I would check also.

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02-26-2010 , 09:45 AM

Th3_S1aught3r

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easy check back. Im a big fan of the flop raise aswell

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02-26-2010 , 09:47 AM

Recon20k

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Seems a pretty obv board to bluff raise, im not sure i like it, depends what kind of range you have here i guess.

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02-26-2010 , 05:15 PM

Doorbread

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Guess the consensus is pretty clear. I checked.

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02-26-2010 , 05:36 PM

NeverScaredB

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Originally Posted by Doorbread

Guess the consensus is pretty clear. I checked.

Is that /thread? I'm kind of curious about the river action.

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02-26-2010 , 05:45 PM

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Doorbread

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Full Tilt Poker $1000.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN/SB): $2328.50
BB: $2224.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN/SB with J

Hero raises to $30, BB raises to $80, Hero calls $50

Flop: ($160.00) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $90.00, Hero raises to $288.85, BB calls $198.85

Turn: ($737.70) K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($737.70) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $635.00

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02-26-2010 , 05:50 PM

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Zeestein

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all you can eat imo

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02-26-2010 , 05:55 PM

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Doorbread

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Seriously? I think he's way more likely to c/c a queen than turn it into a bluff. His range is super narrow, but I believe him.

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02-26-2010 , 05:56 PM

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NeverScaredB

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If he folds to a shove, we're bluffing with the best hand.

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I think the best/most consistent non-air hand we rep is Q6 and I don't think he's mashing it in with worse for value. I guess if he's smart he should be checking his entire range on the river if ours is Q6/air unless he suspects you will check back Q6. But if that's our read his hand is probably something in the 654x range and we can just call.

Unless he's bet/calling this flop with AA and then turning it into a bluff trying to get us to fold Q6 on the river. But he's not.

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02-26-2010 , 06:24 PM

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I fold now, like flop and turn

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02-26-2010 , 07:15 PM

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Doorbread

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Obviously folding flop is ok but I want to be able to raise sets here.

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02-26-2010 , 11:53 PM

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Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by wazz

I fold now, like flop and turn

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02-27-2010 , 04:29 PM

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Recon20k

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Originally Posted by Doorbread

Seriously? I think he's way more likely to c/c a queen than turn it into a bluff. His range is super narrow, but I believe him.

This why i dont like the flop raise. He could be floating you here (w/ air or JJ agutter) or have AQxx or 66xx and its really hard to tell. flip a coin.

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02-27-2010 , 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wazz

I fold now, like flop and turn

yup

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03-04-2010 , 02:02 PM

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I'd check turn, and fold to his river bet.

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