Again most everyone is going to just bluff turn or river spades with hands that have 10-20% on flop.

I agree with joeri (esp. the sizing part).

And especially bc of pf action + psr + flop texture implications when villain has 789xss which most people are going to be C/F. (Not enough equity vs the times you have KKK or A/paint/paint/paint/ss or AAxxss)

aa33 seems too convenient, if you call turn with AsA33 you obviously call with AsA55, no? what about riv bomb with that hand?

curious to know who kittenmittens is

seems like he's been around

I dislike turn sizing a lot.

Can't rep the nut flush with my line.

i'm vbetting any two pair or better there vs a lot of players (especially if i think they only could have AAxx).

No one is pointing out what I view as the only clear mistake in this hand - Just c/f the turn. We're allowed to concede a pot every once in a while, even when our opponent checks.

I assume if you bet this, you bet every hand that can't call or raise a turn bet, since I can't picture a hand in your range with less equity and fewer good bluff outs than 9988.

Don't hate the river play, but I'd check. I'd like a river bet more on a brick than on the spade. Easy for him to have weak (or strong) spades for the autocall. This is somewhat less true if his 4bet range is only AAxx, but I don't think it is this deep IP.

He can still hero call you without spades, and SHOULD be less likely to hero call on a brick. You appear to have so many more value bets in your range on a brick, so you can bluff accordingly.

If river were a Ts or 9s (and you didn't have a set), different story, and I'd bluff quite a bit. Sure, still not as many value hands as on a brick, but so few hands that need to bluff against a perceived AA heavy range.

Agreed. Good post.

+1
i think so too. good spot for value with flush, low 2pairs etc. not for bluff...
I probably would bluff here against random player to write it note that it opens in AAxx

Important to this question :

Is it standard for hero to check a flop OOP in a deep 4b pot by your opponent with 2p/fd on KQ6?

Sorry I should have been a little more clear.

I meant are you calling the 980 with AsA55 as well?

If you are calling the turn on 46QKss with AsA33 you are still calling the turn with AsA55, so when 3s hits river and you don't have a set, the call is much more marginal cause now you don't beat 2p on top of the flushes and very few straight combos.

Phil said you 'should' be less likely to call on a brick. I am wondering where the line is drawn on BTN calling hero's river bet. Aren't we assuming there are a ton of river cards hero will bet? 9s/Ts seem like cards we have to insta fold to, but 3s seems like a card where if we think we are good with AA on the turn, AA is still good on river. So where is the line?


Sorry if these are stupid questions, I'm not an expert, but I feel like this is a great hand for me to learn how to fold less

If we're bluffing 9988r here, we're bluffing close to 100%.. We'll, it's probably not too bad considering some peoples checkback-ranges in this spot are pretty heavily skewed against AAxx not liking it, but still, it's definitely a frequency I would re-evaluate ;-).

Other than that, I might have made turn a little biggier, but river sizing is great imo.

What's your id?

I feel like if not betting the river then the turn bet seems spewy

This pretty much nails it.

If you are betting this hand on this turn you are betting way too many hands and opening yourself to get owned.

I would also say that while galfond does look into GTO sometimes too much, this is a spot where people are going to know how well balanced you are because its a hand villain should (nearly always) note.